Star Wars: Rebuilding of Empires - Ship and Technology Submissions & Critiques

[Runic Arbiter]

Originally Posted by Lord Castellan

Course you'll have first claim if it isnt actually taken.

Well, I think we are using the word 'claim' a little loosely here. I'm going to be a mercenary group, and while I do intend to have them into a sort of small migrating nation, that's not gonna happen for quite some time. Right to the point, I can't feasible produce any ships of any kind, only buy them. Now, what I could do, is say that my merc group heavily influenced certain designs. Also, though this may be a stretch, My group would be allowed to buy one ship of said design at half the price for their contribution.

[Coyote]

Originally Posted by Runic Arbiter

Well, I think we are using the word 'claim' a little loosely here. I'm going to be a mercenary group, and while I do intend to have them into a sort of small migrating nation, that's not gonna happen for quite some time. Right to the point, I can't feasible produce any ships of any kind, only buy them. Now, what I could do, is say that my merc group heavily influenced certain designs. Also, though this may be a stretch, My group would be allowed to buy one ship of said design at half the price for their contribution.

This could potentially work well with a plot option that has recently come up: the Sluis Van arc.

Sluis Van is a world that joined the Entente because it feared the Senex Imperium. However, it does have some old Seperatist sympathies. The Sluissi don't want to be dominated by any particular government or ideology... and they like the Entente because they get the protection but are largely left alone. Given the chance, they always prefer some independence so they can sell ships to anyone and make money.

Perhaps your merc group could be based from, and get resources & contracts from, the Sluissi government. Sort of a cross between Hammer's Slammer's and Blackwater, you'd be primarily contracted to contribute to their defense, but you'd also be free to go out and make extra money on other contracts. The Sluis Van government would provide your group with ships, repairs, and supplies; you provide them with a militia to keep not just Senex, but anyone else (even possibly the Entente) from throwing their weight around.

That easily explains why your group has money and access to ships without straining credibility and allows Sluis Van more of what they really want--secure independence.

You would not be obligated to make "Sluis Van defense" stories-- you could do as you please without ever having to mention Sluis Van unles it suited your interests; otherwise just keep them in the background as an explanation as to how you get your resources. Maybe from time to time a Sluis Van storyline might even be interesting or useful.

[Lord Castellan]

Originally Posted by Coyote

This could potentially work well with a plot option that has recently come up: the Sluis Van arc.

Sluis Van is a world that joined the Entente because it feared the Senex Imperium. However, it does have some old Seperatist sympathies. The Sluissi don't want to be dominated by any particular government or ideology... and they like the Entente because they get the protection but are largely left alone. Given the chance, they always prefer some independence so they can sell ships to anyone and make money.

Perhaps your merc group could be based from, and get resources & contracts from, the Sluissi government. Sort of a cross between Hammer's Slammer's and Blackwater, you'd be primarily contracted to contribute to their defense, but you'd also be free to go out and make extra money on other contracts. The Sluis Van government would provide your group with ships, repairs, and supplies; you provide them with a militia to keep not just Senex, but anyone else (even possibly the Entente) from throwing their weight around.

That easily explains why your group has money and access to ships without straining credibility and allows Sluis Van more of what they really want--secure independence.

You would not be obligated to make "Sluis Van defense" stories-- you could do as you please without ever having to mention Sluis Van unles it suited your interests; otherwise just keep them in the background as an explanation as to how you get your resources. Maybe from time to time a Sluis Van storyline might even be interesting or useful.

I like this idea. Its actually a really good and well seated background for you.

With the Ship, Sluis Van wouldnt get the design were it to be Bothan, and so if you wanted me to have it that wont work out. But there could always be a behind the scenes reason.

[Shad4c]

Originally Posted by Lord Castellan

Ah yes, the Assault Frigate. Smaller variant of my Cruiser.

Though that one above is not mine, its I believe Shad's. Considering the designation, Bloodstripe, and how its from Corellia.

If im mistaken, then I may need an "Assault Star Destroyer" To keep with the feel and still give me a larger ship so my cruisers can still be cruiser sized.

Course you'll have first claim if it isnt actually taken.

Anything CEC is me .

It's claimed by me though I haven't used it yet, I did use it but then Antov kicked up a fuss about it and I changed the name and picture of the vessel to the Nubia class to something different so he wouldn't bother me.

I now intend to use the strident as my VSD replacement when I get around to researching it.

I'm pretty sure the other two arn't taken though, if you would like someone to have built either them you can say I (Bloodstripe/CEC/Nubian Stardrives) did it if you like. I'm not laying claim to anything, just offering you an extra background source for ships since the BC using mercs pre-Vong makes sense and I've already developed several SD designs in secret. A couple more showing up is easily explained, but like I said, just an offer.

[Dark Primus]

Originally Posted by Runic Arbiter

I found some interesting Star Destroyer types on deviantart.


I like to have the one below in my merc's fleet as well (I plan to have five star destroyer types in total, so I'm looking for the most unique ones). Edit: If this isn't taken yet, I'm just going to a limb and say its slightly bigger than a Venator star destroyer

This one is claimed by Antonov, but the design can be reclaimed if he doesn't show up. So you will be given the first chance at it.

[Runic Arbiter]

Originally Posted by Coyote

This could potentially work well with a plot option that has recently come up: the Sluis Van arc.

[a most interesting prospect]

Hmmm, this could work, I like it.

Originally Posted by Shad4c

I'm pretty sure the other two arn't taken though, if you would like someone to have built either them you can say I (Bloodstripe/CEC/Nubian Stardrives) did it if you like. I'm not laying claim to anything, just offering you an extra background source for ships since the BC using mercs pre-Vong makes sense and I've already developed several SD designs in secret. A couple more showing up is easily explained, but like I said, just an offer.

Thank you for the offer Shad4c, if I find anything else that you would like to build, just say so. Just remember who helped you with the design.

Originally Posted by Dark Primus

This one is claimed by Antonov, but the design can be reclaimed if he doesn't show up. So you will be given the first chance at it.

This may not be my place to make this call, but I feel that extended absence would leave one susceptible to...industrial espionage.

Edit: in either event, the one after it is the one I'd like to...have a discount on.
Still, the more I look at this, more I'd like a discount on it, too.

[Lord Castellan]

Originally Posted by Runic Arbiter

This may not be my place to make this call, but I feel that extended absence would leave one susceptible to...industrial espionage.

Wont be a possibility as within nine game months or so that design will cease to exist. So the appearance will be open for someone else to come in and create new one. If you happen to like it however something can be done.

[PhantomVX2000]

Originally Posted by Runic Arbiter

*snips*

It is entirely plausible and doable for the wealthy individuals or private organizations to order the custom-built starships. It have been done before, few pirates with big pockets were able to order custom-built vessels from legitmate builders like CEC, MandalMotors, and etc. Vos had one of these such vessels during the Clone Wars.

Your organization would have much better chance as they have resources, money, and trained manpower to man these vessels.

Sure, they will be somewhat expensive than buying commercially available vessels.

[Herald]

Originally Posted by Lord Castellan

Have you made your shiplist yet? I suggest since you know Vong just make one and run it by a mod. Cant possibly hurt.

Nope not made it yet, might do so soon and ask for tips since I'm not very good with stats will let you guys know when I tackle it.

[PhantomVX2000]

Originally Posted by Herald

Nope not made it yet, might do so soon and ask for tips since I'm not very good with stats will let you guys know when I tackle it.

I could help you on that one.

[Lord Castellan]

Originally Posted by Herald

Nope not made it yet, might do so soon and ask for tips since I'm not very good with stats will let you guys know when I tackle it.

From my understanding it will be just like any other ship design. Still can say hull armor and instead of shields it would be Dovin Basal strength, as well as how many of them you have. Then youll need to come up with the weaponry and create one to match our ships of similiar size. So you'll have cruisers and SDs youll just need to come up with Vong variant names.

[Herald]

Well first I got to collect all the ships so have to go raid Wookieepedia and the NJO books in my possession but once I'm done with that I might call upon Phantom and the rest of you for some help Anyway, guess I better get to it *raids Wookieepedia for info*

[Dark Primus]

I believe all info on Vong ships should be listed in Wookieepedia. If there are no exact weapons figures then you could make them up.

[An Ancient]

The misplaced stats:
Akran class Battleship;
Length: 2,200 Meters
Weaponary: 106 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 106 Heavy Turbolaser Cannons, 70 Ion Cannons, 16 Tractor Beam Projectors, 12 Heavy Turrets, 1 Modular Mount
Speed: 35 MGLT
Hull: 5,750 RU
Shields: 12,000 SBD (R)
Hyperdrive: X1
Hanger: 4 SWE-grade Squadrons and one flight
Description: An upgrade of the Allegiance-B class used by the SWE, the new unit sacrifices some of it's tractor beam projectors and all it's torpedo armament for only a slight increase in firepower, the main develpoment however comes elsewhere, the hull has been up-armoured and a new modular mount has been installed in front of the bridge in place of several torpedo magazines and their launchers. This allows the ship to operate the new modular mount, an SWE innovation that allows the ship to be customised for a given mission. It can fit a dual Energy Leech, or a pair of Heavy turrets, or any equivilant weapons load-out the SWE can think to install in a modular weapons format.

Shadow Class Star Destroyer
Length: 1,600 Meters
Weaponary: 80 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 72 Heavy Turbolaser Cannons, 20 Ion Cannons, 6 Tractor Beam Projectors, 8 Heavy Turrets, 1 Modular Mount
Speed: 40 MGLT
Hull: 2,500 RU
Shields: 7,000 SBD (R)
Hyperdrive: X1
Hanger: 4 SWE-grade Squadrons
Description: An upgrade to existing SWE Star Destroyer designs on the Imperator hull, it uses regenerative shields systems and extra armour to enhance survivability, it drops fighter squadrons and tractor beams in order to fit a few more guns and a modular mount system.

Name/Type: Ghost-class Cruiser
Designer/Manufacturer: Sienar Fleet Systems/Kuat Drive Yards
Combat Role: Light Cruiser
Crew: 3,000 + 65 Gunners
Length: 598 Meters
Speed: 70 MGLT
Hyperdrive: x2
Shield Rating: 3200 SBD (R)
Hull Rating: 1300 RU
Weapons: 26 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 12 Quad Laser Cannons, 4 Ion Cannons and 2 Tractor Beam Projectors.
Fighter Complement: 2 SWE-grade squadrons
Troops: 300 Stormtroopers.
Support Craft: 4 light transports.
Description: A simple overhaul of the Enforcer cruiser with fewer Ion Cannons and Tractor Beams in favour of more guns and improved survivability.

Name: Wraith class Star Destroyer
Type: Derivative of Kuat Drive Yards Quasar Class Star Destroyer
Scale: Heavy Cruiser
Consumables: 4 Years
Cargo Capacity: 9,000 Tons
Hyperdrive Multiplier: X1
Hyperdrive Backup: X6
Nav Computer: Yes
Speed: 70 MGLT
Hyperdrive: x2
Shield Rating: 5500 SBD (R)
Hull Rating: 2200 RU
Fighters: 4 SWE-grade squadrons
Transports: 6
Weapons: 16 Medium Laser Cannon Batteries, 60 Heavy TurboLaser Batteries, 20 Ion Cannons, 4 Tractor beam projectors, 1 Modular Mount
Description: A heavily upgunned varient on the Quasar design, retaining the speed at the expence of Ion cannons and several other systems. It is the smallest vessel capable of carrying the modular mount.

Name/Type- Apocalypse class Battlecruiser
Design/manufacturer- Kuat Drive Yards
Combat role- Fleet command/ Strategic dominance
Crew- 100,000
Length 6,200 metres
Speed- 35 MGLT
Hyperdrive- class 1
Shield rating- 50,000
Hull rating- 25,000
Weapons- 420 heavy turbolaser batteries, 420 heavy turbolasers, 60 ion cannons, 20 tractor beams, 4 Modular Mounts, 14 Heavy Turrets
Fighters- 12 SWE-grade squadrons
Description: Dropping all the troop capacity and 10 tractor beams frees up plenty of space in this vessel, allowing it to be heavily upgunned as the SWE continues its push towards space based combat supported by dedicated landing ships.

[Runic Arbiter]

As I understand it, taking stuff from other universes are not allowed, but what about stuff that didn't make the cut? If that's allowed, here are a few land relate designs:

[An Ancient]

One of the main guides is, "Does it look like it's from Star Wars?" That last ship might make it, I don't think the others would.

[Lord Castellan]

Plus all of those designs are Halo Canon, and the Vulture actually is in the game.

[Tabi]

Thought second to last pic looks good enough to be part of a Composite Laser Defense System. Like massively downsized Darksaber. Make it about...say...300-600 meters long, squat. Composite Laser Dish in front, plenty of quads and missiles. Place a dozen or so around in orbit...

Hey, Ancient, remember my Composite Ion Cannon? I think I've found it.

[PhantomVX2000]

Originally Posted by Lord Castellan

Plus all of those designs are Halo Canon, and the Vulture actually is in the game.

The last one in RA's post is not a finalized Vulture.

This is official Vulture, you could see the differences.

[Dark Primus]

Originally Posted by Runic Arbiter

As I understand it, taking stuff from other universes are not allowed, but what about stuff that didn't make the cut? If that's allowed, here are a few land relate designs:

That is allowed, as long the ships and designs looks and feels Star Wars-ish

[PhantomVX2000]

This is an export starfighter, available for anyone interested in buying a very dependable, robust fighter with excellent Mandalorian quality.



Nexu-class Starfighter

Manufacturer: MandalMotors
Model: Nexu
Class: Starfighter
Role: Multi-purpose space superiority fighter

Length: 6.88 meters
Width: 4.27 meters
Height: 2.5 meters (With wings extended)
Maximum acceleration: 5,000G
MGLT: 135
Maximum atmospheric speed: 34,000 km/h (with deflector shield on)
Engine units: 2x MandalTech twin ion engines
Hyperdrive rating: Class 1
Hyperdrive system: Equipped
Power plant: Solar ionization reactor
Navigation system: R-9 astromech droid
Shielding: Equipped
Crew: 1 pilot
Cargo capacity: 60 kilograms
Consumables: 4 days

Armaments:
(Standard configuration)
- 2x Medium laser cannons
- 2x Twin rapid-fire laser cannons
- 4x External detachable hardpoints (Optional – missiles or rockets or ECM pod)

(Alternate configuration #1)
- 2x Heavy laser cannons
- 2x Ion cannons
- 4x External detachable hardpoints (Optional – missiles or rockets or ECM pod)

The Nexu-class starfighter was an export starfighter developed by the MandalMotors, intended for the foreign customers. Its design was based on the Kuat’s famed Eta-2 Actis-class light interceptor with several significant revisions and improvements, both externally and internally. Due to fuselage expansion, the Nexu boasted fifty percent increase in the interior volume, enabling a smaller and more nimble starfighter to be equipped with the shield generators, hyperdrive unit, electronic countermeasure gears, and a very powerful reactor.

At first glance, many first-time observers would find the Nexu’s cockpit to be lacking in flight instruments, believing the pilot would be restricted by insufficient situational awareness and tactical information. However, the pilot actually received the information through helmet-mounted display and the pilot’s situational awareness was significantly expanded to a complete 360 degree coverage thank to the Mandalorian sensor fusion technology.

Its smaller size enabled the operators to pack more Nexu fighter into hangars that could only hold a reasonable amount of regular-sized fighters. What made the Nexu popular with many customers was its modularity nature, allowing them to adapt the starfighter for virtually any mission.

[Dark Primus]

That's a fighter I would love to purchase.

[Runic Arbiter]

Here are some ships from EVE online that I think would work in a Star Wars setting.
http://www.ravestats.com/public/fen/...urricane-4.jpg
http://www.ravestats.com/public/fen/caldari-rokh-2.jpg
http://www.ravestats.com/public/fen/caldari-drake-1.jpg

Edit: Right, links should suffice.

[PhantomVX2000]

Originally Posted by Dark Primus

That's a fighter I would love to purchase.

I could make an IC post about MandalMotors starting its own research project at their own expenses sometime next week or so. Perhaps, the public announcement of Nexu-class starfighter might elicit attention from the Galactic Commonwealth and few others.

[Dark Primus]

Perhaps you should minimize the size of the pictures Runic Arbiter.

A big ship of some sort would suit this design good.


Love this ship, very unusual design. Looks very futuristic, so this is going to be developed in the Legacy era in this timeline.
Edit: I think this ship would be suitable to be a Quarren warship, giving them a larger role in the story thread anyway. A Heavy Star Cruiser role.