XSGCOM: Goa'uld Defence (Part III)

[Valiran]

Originally Posted by Richardson

Well, a supergate has been built, why not use that?

And when did this happen in-story?

[tahu1809]

Originally Posted by aeroprime

Yup. Pillage. Then burn.

Words to live by. Word to live by my friend.

[holyknight]

Originally Posted by kclcmdr

Wooah... Battle Royale...

Even with Apophis adding himself to the mix... Anubis is still kicking Goa'uld arses.. Update :

More like the Snakehead version of the Battle of Jutland.....

[syed]

This battle seems to involve all the major gould overlords, so they would be ordering all hyperspace capable ships to make best speed for delmak. This battle will take a long time and be hopefully decisive enought that the winners will want extra forces to seize vulnerable worlds so posiibly ships days or even weeks away will be called for. Aphosis probally ordered all ground forces to fill and secure all valuable sites so no distractions or side attacks so most of his army would be here.

Delmak is a great prize due to industry and anubis is the greater threat due to his technology, so the fight will continue till the planet is taken or anubis is destroyed. Also gould ego, they want a show down.

Imagine a map of gould space.

At distance of week and months away the ships positioned there would probally still be there. As soon as the battle is over they would be order to go support their leaders or secure more important sites. They were probally ordered to come in as it would be easier to order them to new assignments. If their leaders are dead then the ships would be snatched by the nearest gould, allies or opportunists.

In the space Between these ships and delmak would be all the ships going all out to join the battle. Bases and planets abandoned except for ground forces. All important gould would have at least one hyperspace capable ship even if it is just a cargo ship and i guess this battle is so important that they cant exact not show up. So all that would be left behind would be jaffa and maby flunky gould, but this is the showdown of the empire, even flunkies would have to go as could they really be trusted.

Delmak would be a mess fleets attacking, wreckage flying. The biggest fleet battle ever imagined by the gould. For the sacrifice of abydos, the gould could be so diminsihed that this could be their own self inflicted death blow, and anything else they do just their death throws.

The tollan probally have their ships watching this, the winners of the battle could be so damaged that the few tollan ships could eliminate them all. If the mega ship destroyed, would anubis allies retreat, some those ships do contain better tech than aphosis but also some that are weaker.

This battle would be an opportunity. Delmak is extra ordinarilly valuable and if the fleet is defeated seeing as the top gould are there the war would end so much sooner. The battle cost them alot of ships, aphosis industry will be able to recoup loses quicker so bigger threat. Delmak must be taken or destroyed. Once a gould are dead it is easier to take their stuff.

The gould once finished will try to elimate all remaing enemy forces, takeing resources and prizes. Securing enemy territory. Then examing their enemies technology, encorparting advantages in tech rebuild their fleets. So earth while the gould are still fighting is target shipbuilding and inferstructure related to it. Also due to lower security, raid and burn as much as possible.

[EdBecerra]

Originally Posted by kclcmdr

Before anybody can walk away with anything...

the Spacebattle above Delmaks between the multi-forces of the opposing Goa'uld System Lords are in for a meatgrinder...

"I can haz Jaffa-burger?"

Ed.

[Richardson]

Originally Posted by EdBecerra

"I can haz Jaffa-burger?"

Ed.

Yes, yes you can haz a jaffaburger. Just don't mind the little chunks of snake ground up in the wonderfully fine gibblybits in there. Nice and nasty'n all.

I think this is the true climax, the turning point where everything is now downhill. Danny just seriously turned the tide for SGXCOM, with the massive blow dealt here. It's not THE deathblow, but it's the cripple shot. This is the opening for the real deathblow known as SGXCOM to start shipping nukes in bulk, FEDEX Overnight Express.

Not to mention we have yet to see if loki will get involved. Now the question is, where from here?

[Emperor Tippy]

Yah! Hotpoint is updating again.

[syed]

apophis side has smaller fleet, better than average tech and greater industry. How ever his fleet acually may be bigger, but needed to protect his territory more.
The system lords have bigger overall fleet, and only anubis and his cronies have the truly advanced gear but their fleets are even smaller.

at abydos
Anubis mega ship Vs aphosis flag ship and 6 hatak. 6 Hatak destroyed.

Delmak
megaship and 30 anubis level hatak
apophis and fleet, greater than five time so greater than 150 ships.
so say ten times, so 300 ships
ares and molon bring 10 ships.
numerous gliders and alkesh, only ones left belong to apophis
more than 20 hatak destroyes in first big gun firing
2nd firing killed even more than the first
zipacna, ares and moloc deal with the thirty ships, 2-3 ships per enermy one so a fleet of 60-90 ships, plus the 10 from moloc and ares
another dozen ship taken out by the big gun
12 ships from yu arrive, ssaying yu and bigger force will be coming
baal fleet comes and attack zipacna making him call for reinforce ments
still to come
yu and the rest of his fleet
the rest of baal forces plus those of Amaterasu, Bastet and Kali.

so minimum of 80 ships have been destroyed.
apophis had forces of around 328 as a guess down to 230 with more coming. due to tech anubis ship is equal to two, so say his fleet represents sixty ships with more coming.

The big gun is able to take out around 25 ships each firing, it need only to fire say 15 times to remove current forces at a minimum
in this battle aphosis has numbers bus anubis has ship quality and a weapon capable of taking out 25 hatak vessels at once.

apophis needs to stop the megaship, while anubis wishes to remove aphosis fleet. Delmak would let him build hiss fleet quicker to recoup loses before dealing with other gould.

Depending on how quickly the big gun is stoped determines who will win. If the battle lasts too long apophis loses, even if mega ship is gone anubis fleet is better quality.but i gurantee that as soon as that battle finished and the big gun is still there baal will strike to destroy it as only chance to destroy it.

Also why did anubis take the eyes with him when he abandoned ship.

[hyperion51]

I've got two questions.

How many Goa'uld are going to buy the farm permanently here? And how many ships will they have left collectively?

Whoever wins, this is going to be a phyric victory of epic proportions.

[Imperator Pax]

pleased am I to see that there is an update

[EdBecerra]

Originally Posted by hyperion51

I've got two questions.

How many Goa'uld are going to buy the farm permanently here?

Not enough of them.

Originally Posted by hyperion51

And how many ships will they have left collectively?

Even one ship left is too many.

Ed.

[Jonen C]

Originally Posted by holyknight

More like the Snakehead version of the Battle of Jutland.....

More like Salamis, Lepanto and Leyte Gulf, combined.

Thassalottaships.

Have to hand it to the Snakes - they know how to throw down.
Now, this, is a fleet battle.

What? No Endor references?
"Our shields can not repel firepower of that magnitude!"

[VhenRa]

You know... if X-Com is watching this... They are probably laughing in glee as all their enemies kill each other.

I suppose it is time I go read the last few chapters so I can remember what actually happened last.

[hyperion51]

Originally Posted by EdBecerra

Not enough of them.



Even one ship left is too many.

Ed.

Maybe Zippy will buy the farm at least.

Gotta have a few ships left for Teal'c and his people later on. Nothing like some cannon fodder to throw at the Ori.

One other thing that I'm wondering and would expect. I wonder what the odds are of some "friendly fire" incidents occuring. Even if one snake is technically backing someone else, they may not be opposed to taking a few pot shots at their so called "ally" if it can put their own powerbase into a better position later on.

Also, depending on how the battle goes, I wonder what the odds are that someone might outright switch sides if it looks like their own side is loosing.

[RedX]

Yes! UPDATE! I love it.

And yea, largest deep-space naval battle in Goa'uld recorded history, here. This sort of thing illustrates the situation the Tau'ri are in- for all their advanced tactics, better technological adaptation, and common-sense approach to killing people and breaking things, the Goa'uld simply have way the hell to many ships to tackle.

Well... had too many ships. Not so many, now.

[Imperator Pax]

Originally Posted by hyperion51

Maybe Zippy will buy the farm at least.

Gotta have a few ships left for Teal'c and his people later on. Nothing like some cannon fodder to throw at the Ori.

One other thing that I'm wondering and would expect. I wonder what the odds are of some "friendly fire" incidents occuring. Even if one snake is technically backing someone else, they may not be opposed to taking a few pot shots at their so called "ally" if it can put their own powerbase into a better position later on.

Also, depending on how the battle goes, I wonder what the odds are that someone might outright switch sides if it looks like their own side is loosing.

Exactly the Jaffa are mutants and should be used as cannon fodder or exterminated wholesale.

[Hotpoint]

Second part of Chapter 44

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Baal’s Ha’tak – Delmak System – April 2003

Baal gave the flagship of Apophis an envious look and then turned his attention onto the even larger and more impressive, if less aesthetically pleasing, vessel Anubis was aboard. The latter had to be over five kilometres across measuring pylon to pylon, it must have cost a fortune Baal decided and for that matter if it wasn’t for the fact the Eye superweapon supposedly required a ship that size and configuration he would have assumed Anubis was compensating for something.

‘Have you established which ship Zipacna is on yet?’ Baal asked his First Prime.

‘Yes Lord Baal’ the Jaffa confirmed.

‘I want to destroy it personally, prioritise it as a target for our main guns’ Baal told him, ‘I always did want to slap that smug expression off his face’ he said.

‘It will be done My Lord’ his First Prime responded.

‘And launch our deathgliders, send them against the ship Apophis is on, that’ll keep him distracted’ Baal ordered, ‘he gets irrational and incompetent when he starts becoming enraged’ he noted. It was a common racial failing that only a minority of goa’uld seemed to be immune to fortunately including himself. Many of the System Lords had played god so long they had almost started to believe it themselves, they spoke of bringing down wrath on their enemies and deluded themselves that it wasn’t mere technology that made them masters of the galaxy but rather it was the natural order of things.

For his part Baal was considerably more grounded in reality, he planned ahead and was willing to work with lesser enemies in order to deal with more dangerous foes. The only other System Lord he had ever suspected was only play-acting whilst making the smart moves behind the scenes was Sokar who was fortunately out of the picture. Apophis was willing to learn from his enemies, which meant he wasn’t completely deluded as to his own infallibility, but he still skirted too close to the belief he was a genuine deity.

As for Anubis he was simply insane Baal knew. Doing “evil” things just for the sake of it rather than as a means to a more rational end was the mark of a madman. It was good policy to frighten the peasants into submission, Baal wasn’t averse to the occasional massacre if it was necessary, but some of the things Anubis had done in the past indicated that he didn’t use terror as a tool of social control he simply enjoyed being despicable. In some ways, Baal thought, the role of the devil that Sokar had played for the sake of his image was who Anubis really was and that was disturbing on many levels.

‘Our new ships are performing ably in battle’ Baal’s First Prime observed.

‘They should, they’re the most advanced in the galaxy’ Baal replied with satisfaction. You had to admit that, although he was a disgusting slob, Nerus really was a genius at this sort of thing Baal thought to himself. The new ships had the hyperdrives, powercores and cloaking devices of the best ships of Apophis plus the upgraded sensors, shields and weapons that Anubis had supplied to his closest allies. It was a pity he only had a few of them as yet, the large majority of Baal’s fleet was still made up of less capable ships, but the blame for that could be placed squarely on the shoulders of Lord Yu who had accidentally attacked Baal’s main secret research complex nearly a year ago at a point when they were still allies against Apophis. The resulting damage had greatly delayed the project and to say that Baal was bitter about it, and planned to punish the senile old fool harshly for it as a result, was a gross underestimate.

‘Sire, our ships and those of Anubis are winning this battle against Zipacna but Anubis is demanding that we aid him against the bulk of the enemy fleet’ Baals First Prime announced after a transmission was received from his opposite number, Her’ak the First Prime of Anubis.

Baal rolled his eyes. ‘Given that we would have to defeat Zipacna first before we can move to assist offer my apologies but say that they might have been willing to get themselves surrounded on all sides by charging headlong into the enemy but I’m not going to do that’ he said. If they moved to support the flagship with the Eye weapon they would then have Zipacna and his ships behind them and that wasn’t going to happen.

‘Sire the other Ha’tak of Anubis are disengaging from the fight against Zipacna and are accelerating towards the main enemy force’ Baal’s First Prime told him.

‘Marvellous’ Baal replied sardonically. ‘Together we could have defeated Zipacna more quickly and then crashed into the flank of the main enemy fleet hard enough to put Apophis on the defensive, this disjointed piece-meal battle benefits the side with the most ships and that’s not us’ he growled.

‘Many enemy Ha’tak are being destroyed by the Eye weapon My Lord’ the First Prime told Baal.

‘Unfortunately Apophis doesn’t exactly suffer from a shortage of them’ Baal replied wryly. Anubis put far too much faith in superweapons, Baal decided, he clearly underestimated the power of raw numbers. Supposedly that had been a failing of the Ancients too Baal recalled thoughtfully, maybe all that playing around with their leftover devices and technology had rubbed off on him?

Anubis was in fact a little too fond of superweapons, though he would never admit it even to himself. As he sat in the throne of his flagship, waiting for his latest miraculous Ancient device to recharge and be unleashed upon the next unfortunate group of motherships attacking him, he was however becoming aware that he maybe should have waited until more of his allies could have joined him in this battle. His shields were starting to drop to a level where the unusually powerful main guns of the flagship of Apophis might be able to go right through them and that would be a serious problem because although it was huge the vessel he was on was actually quite flimsy. Compared to the heavily armoured hulls of regular Ha’tak the flagship of Anubis was not very strong in terms of construction, relying heavily on its shields to absorb all incoming fire, and it would not withstand direct hits well at all, a couple of salvo’s at most and it would come apart like a deathglider hit by a Heavy Staff Cannon.

It was time to call in a favour, one that he had hoped not to have to request because who knew what price it would cost him to be in the debt of a traitor to his own kind, one with obvious ambition and personal drive as well as access to technology that neither the Goa’uld nor Asgard, nor even the Ancients perhaps had developed. ‘Her’ak, activate the hyperwave communication device we were given, tell our renegade Asgard friend that he was right and that I require his support in this battle after all’ Anubis told his First Prime reluctantly. ‘He said he would have a task-force waiting nearby for when we needed them... this will probably cost me more than just another Ha’tak in payment’ he said in annoyance.

Apophis smiled, his losses were immense but he was starting to believe victory was inevitable, the hubris of Anubis in believing his wonder-weapon made him unbeatable had been his undoing. ‘Lord Yu is here’ a Jaffa told him, ‘he has twenty Ha’tak and more than twice that number of Al’kesh’ he announced.

‘Request that he joins in the attack on the enemy flagship, let him lose a few ships to that weapon when it fires next instead of us’ Apophis replied.

‘Many types of unknown ships of strange designs are appearing from hyperspace’ another Jaffa announced. ‘They are attacking our fleet’ he said. ‘The largest type is perhaps the size of the troop transports used by Anubis, the majority are the size of deathgliders’ the Jaffa continued, ‘all are shielded including the smaller craft... the larger vessels are using a beam weapon of surprising power against our Ha’tak motherships’ he told his god, ‘the plasma they are firing seems to be similar to that of the weapons used by the creatures who invaded your palace My Lord’ he added with a frown.

‘Destroy them’ Apophis ordered.

‘We are already engaging but they are freakishly manoeuvrable and their weapons are disproportionately powerful to the size of the ships carrying them’ the Jaffa replied apologetically. ‘Our deathgliders are trying to intercept the smaller craft but are having great difficulty’ he continued. ‘The Al’kesh of Lord Yu are moving to fight them and he is launching his own deathgliders to support our own.’

‘Sweep the skies free of those gnats, we cannot be distracted from our primary goal of destroying Anubis’ Apophis thundered as Loki’s forces entered the fray against him.

The System Lords were about to discover what the meaning of “Punch above your weight” truly was as they witnessed what even mere fighter-sized craft armed with elerium based weaponry could do.

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Comments/Suggestions/Abuse?

I feel the need to apologise for the line "the hubris of Anubis"

[Jimmy C]

Hope the Tok'ra spies get good intel on the performance of Loki's ships in their preferred environment. XSGCOM would be dearly interested in that data.

[kclcmdr]

Loki finally strikes!!!

Wonders what's his agenda?? Against one or both sides...?

This battle royale is becoming a Naval farrago....

[Inquisitor Ryan]

Booya.

Is XCOM sitting somewhere chomping down Popcorn as they watch this on a big-screen TV perhaps?

[Cap'n Chryssalid]

Popcorn? This is worth breaking out the buffalo wings and beer!

Quite a big furball you've got here, Hotpoint. I'm enjoying every line of it.

[tahu1809]

With the Tok'ra and their hosts giving the play'by play NFL style. Pull up chair boys it the XSGCom super-bull!

[Inquisitor Ryan]

I would pay to see that!

[tahu1809]

And if you think about Loki boys are the half-time show!

[Brellin]

Any recording of this are going to make the X-Com people sweat I bet, it's probably a world of difference between engaging Loki's craft in-atmo as opposed to in space, willing to bet they are seeing a dispropotionate increase in ability from Loki's ships now that they are fighting in their prefered medium.