Drop the marker pen and put your hands up! - Page 2

Desert Fox · Apr 4th 2010, 12:16am

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Originally Posted by Vanquisher221

Anyone else mildly bothered that doodling apparently carries a reduced sentence of eight hours of community service?

Well, something needs to tell the girl "don't do it"
Although I would be more supportive of the school if they had not dragged her away in handcuffs.

Bishop Gantry · Apr 4th 2010, 12:58am

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Originally Posted by Desert Fox

Well, something needs to tell the girl "don't do it"
Although I would be more supportive of the school if they had not dragged her away in handcuffs.

Just look at her, prime crime lord material... shes clearly dangerous.

Desert Fox · Apr 4th 2010, 1:04am

Just because somebody is cute does not mean that they should scribble on her desk....
Then again I missed the fact that it was erasable so likely eight hours community service is excessive. I was thinking Sharpie pen

Daniel2112 · Apr 4th 2010, 1:06am

Nope, water-soluble, completely eraseable... Not even sure that qualifies as genuine vandalism/defacement. I wonder if NYC police arrest kids who chalk out hopscotch patterns on the sidewalk these days as well, as it's of a similar level of 'vandalism'.

Bishop Gantry · Apr 4th 2010, 1:17am

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Three years ago, a 13-year-old was arrested for writing "okay" on her desk at Intermediate School 201 in Brooklyn. Two years ago, the Daily News reports, a 5-year-old in Queens was cuffed and sent to a psychiatric ward after throwing a fit in his kindergarten class. Then, last year, a 12-year-old girl was arrested for doodling on her desk at the Hunts Point School in the Bronx.

http://www.parentdish.com/2010/02/05...-on-her-desk/7

Daniel2112 · Apr 4th 2010, 1:25am

Handcuffs fit on 5 year olds? Learn something new every day!

Anyway, Bishop Gantry's latest post seems to explain things clearly to me... NYC is simply full of fucking morons.

Desert Fox · Apr 4th 2010, 1:27am

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Originally Posted by Daniel2112

Handcuffs fit on 5 year olds? Learn something new every day!

Zip strips in all likelihood

Q99 · Apr 4th 2010, 1:30am

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Originally Posted by Desert Fox

Well, something needs to tell the girl "don't do it"
Although I would be more supportive of the school if they had not dragged her away in handcuffs.

Yea. It's almost like a teacher should've come over and said, "Don't do that! If I catch you again, it's detention."

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The amount they're asking for is excessive, but this level of reaction was uncalled for.

Daniel2112 · Apr 4th 2010, 1:36am

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Originally Posted by Q99

Yea. It's almost like a teacher should've come over and said, "Don't do that! If I catch you again, it's detention."

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The amount they're asking for is excessive, but this level of reaction was uncalled for.

I think the amount being asked for is commensurate to the level of overreaction involved.

Q99 · Apr 4th 2010, 2:30am

Mmnmm... I bet it's only that high because they expect it to be bumped down.

Palp · Apr 4th 2010, 5:31am

Yeah...doodling on crap in school shouldn't count as vandalism and shouldn't be a crime. It is a school discipline matter if they choose to have a problem with it. And the principal should indeed be ashamed for moving cops away form important stuff..like eating their donuts.

darleyboy · Apr 4th 2010, 6:43am

Only in American Schools that teach spanish

1812 · Apr 4th 2010, 10:36am

Er... this is a late April Fools thread, isn't it?

I mean... this is truly moronic. I find it a little hard to imagine that handcuffing a little girl and frog marching her to the local nick is an appropriate response to her scribbling on her desk. A bloody detention would probably have been an overreaction.

I wonder what they would have done if she had... oh, I don't know... actually commited some sort of genuine misdemeanor? Full SWAT team, maybe?

I agree, though, that asking for $1 million compensation is pretty bloody ridiculous. Suitably ridiculous, indeed.

dylanredefined · Apr 4th 2010, 10:49am

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Originally Posted by Q99

Yea. It's almost like a teacher should've come over and said, "Don't do that! If I catch you again, it's detention."

--

The amount they're asking for is excessive, but this level of reaction was uncalled for.

You stinking liberal

.It should be immediate detention .Actually in my day it would be high velocity chalk to the head and then more punishment especially if the teacher missed with the chalk.
Surprised cops did not arrest the school staff for wasting their time.

StarSpawn · Apr 4th 2010, 11:07am

her community service could have been cleaning the desk after school. IE detention.

Grand Admiral Kharr · Apr 4th 2010, 11:15am

Bah back in my day a desk wasnt a desk without graffiti on it, be it giant cocks or phone numbers of girls of loose moral virtue it was all part n parcel of growing up. Indeed her comments seem quite tame compared to 'Laura Bratton is a slag who takes a donkey dick up her arse every night' i seem to recall.....

Funnily enough i dated Laura for a few months and while capable of this i saw no evidence she did it....at least not every night.

Vanquisher221 · Apr 4th 2010, 11:15am

A detention would be fine. I just feel like bringing civil authorities into it at all for writing on your desk is silly in the extreme. Doodling a bit on your desk may be a jerk thing to do (and I fully support the school taking disciplinary action), but it's not the same as graffiti-ing a wall, for instance.

Lordarshyn · Apr 4th 2010, 11:22am

was this really a dry erase marker like the article implies? If so, then yeah I could see asking for a ridiculous amount, because that's a ridiculous arrest. If it wasn't a dry erase then that's a little different, but either way, an absolutely ridiculous arrest.

and at that age being embarrassed like that in front of your whole school doesn't just go away either..so I can see why they are asking for a lot. Aim high, right? I don't think they should get a full 900,000 out of it, but I'd ask for a lot too...that way they offer you a higher amount when they try to make a settlement.

IRS · Apr 4th 2010, 11:24am

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Originally Posted by SGTschlock

Why did the school board think that something under internal school discipline required the cops?

In New York City, security is done by the NYPD's School Safety Division. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yor...afety_Division

Basically any situation that would have merit either a Hall Monitor/Security guard to bring attention to the administration, instead they would be the ones to bring law and order in NYC's public education system. Plus given how aggressive students (and occasionally armed) are in the boroughs of New York City-cops are the correct response.

Ladiesman · Apr 4th 2010, 11:27am

hahaha. Wow when I was 12 my school desk was COVERED in drawings of skeletons and tanks blowing people up and monsters and shit.

I'm so glad i'm old. What we do to kids in school today is awful.

EDIT -

Thinking of shit I did in school, if I were in school in todays world, I would probably be locked up in a mental institution or something.

Yitzi · Apr 4th 2010, 1:03pm

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Originally Posted by Ladiesman

Thinking of shit I did in school, if I were in school in todays world, I would probably be locked up in a mental institution or something.

Seeing as you post on SB, chances are you belong there.

Daniel2112 · Apr 4th 2010, 2:31pm

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Originally Posted by IRS

In New York City, security is done by the NYPD's School Safety Division. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yor...afety_Division

Basically any situation that would have merit either a Hall Monitor/Security guard to bring attention to the administration, instead they would be the ones to bring law and order in NYC's public education system. Plus given how aggressive students (and occasionally armed) are in the boroughs of New York City-cops are the correct response.

So what you're saying is, New York is a Police State. Nice to know...

Twisted Mentat · Apr 4th 2010, 3:06pm

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Originally Posted by Grand Admiral Kharr

Bah back in my day a desk wasnt a desk without graffiti on it, be it giant cocks or phone numbers of girls of loose moral virtue it was all part n parcel of growing up.

Ditto.

Hell, even in the lecture halls at Uni all the desks were absolutely covered in graffiti. I'd say it was a complete overreaction from the school and I also feel it's a sad comment that the plaintiffs decide they have to claim such a large amount. What should have happened was an apology, a reworking of the rules, and everyone just getting on with their lives. And perhaps a relatively small cash apology to cover misc emotional pain or whatever.

The Wild Turkey · Apr 4th 2010, 4:17pm

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Originally Posted by dylanredefined

Surprised cops did not arrest the school staff for wasting their time.

If only that was an offence.

Desert Fox · Apr 5th 2010, 1:30am

So for those cops among us/ If you get called into a school for this, what would you tell the school? Could you just refuse to escort her out in handcuffs?

Apr 4th 2010, 1:04am	#28
Desert Fox Vulpes zerda Commodore Join Date: 30 Nov 2003 Location: Trapped in the buckle of the Bible Belt (Tidewater, VA, next to Regent University) Posts: 17,600	Just because somebody is cute does not mean that they should scribble on her desk.... Then again I missed the fact that it was erasable so likely eight hours community service is excessive. I was thinking Sharpie pen __________________ "I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for his help because he might not be there." --Pat Robertson to Dover, PA

Apr 4th 2010, 2:30am	#35
Q99 Registered Join Date: 3 Jan 2005 Posts: 34,857	Mmnmm... I bet it's only that high because they expect it to be bumped down. __________________ "My name is Mike Nelson...a temp. A radiation wave hit and I got shot through a wormhole. Now I'm lost in some distant part of the universe...on a satellite, a satellite full of strange robotic lifeforms. Help me. Listen please. Is anybody out there who can here me? I'm being hunted by a mad scientist's mother...I'm doing everything I can...I'm just looking for a way home." My deviantArt page <--- check it out

Apr 4th 2010, 6:43am	#37
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Apr 4th 2010, 11:07am	#40
StarSpawn Dyslexsic and proud of it Join Date: 24 Dec 2005 Location: Denmark. Land of low unemployment and depressing winters Posts: 7,902	her community service could have been cleaning the desk after school. IE detention. __________________ " I have a dream that one day we will no longer be judged upon by how different we are from you. I have a dream that one day we will be looked at and simply labeled as ‘Friend.’ I have a dream that one day, when all this has occurred, that we will take the advantage of surprise and slaughter as many of you as possible. I have a dream that one day there will be no structure left standing, no man or woman left un-decapitated and no babies left un-devoured."

Apr 4th 2010, 11:15am	#41
Grand Admiral Kharr Get in ma belly! Commodore Join Date: 28 Dec 1999 Location: Glasgow, United Kingdom Posts: 12,094	Bah back in my day a desk wasnt a desk without graffiti on it, be it giant cocks or phone numbers of girls of loose moral virtue it was all part n parcel of growing up. Indeed her comments seem quite tame compared to 'Laura Bratton is a slag who takes a donkey dick up her arse every night' i seem to recall..... Funnily enough i dated Laura for a few months and while capable of this i saw no evidence she did it....at least not every night. __________________ "Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock." I am playing all the right notes.....but not necessarily in the right order....

Apr 4th 2010, 5:31am	#36
Palp Not badass enough. Join Date: 19 Sep 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,916	Yeah...doodling on crap in school shouldn't count as vandalism and shouldn't be a crime. It is a school discipline matter if they choose to have a problem with it. And the principal should indeed be ashamed for moving cops away form important stuff..like eating their donuts.

Apr 4th 2010, 10:36am	#38
1812 Registered Join Date: 6 Jan 2008 Posts: 1,863	Er... this is a late April Fools thread, isn't it? I mean... this is truly moronic. I find it a little hard to imagine that handcuffing a little girl and frog marching her to the local nick is an appropriate response to her scribbling on her desk. A bloody detention would probably have been an overreaction. I wonder what they would have done if she had... oh, I don't know... actually commited some sort of genuine misdemeanor? Full SWAT team, maybe? I agree, though, that asking for $1 million compensation is pretty bloody ridiculous. Suitably ridiculous, indeed.

Apr 4th 2010, 11:15am	#42
Vanquisher221 Pimp Marine Join Date: 24 May 2004 Location: Lurking Posts: 1,984	A detention would be fine. I just feel like bringing civil authorities into it at all for writing on your desk is silly in the extreme. Doodling a bit on your desk may be a jerk thing to do (and I fully support the school taking disciplinary action), but it's not the same as graffiti-ing a wall, for instance.

Apr 4th 2010, 11:22am	#43
Lordarshyn ... Join Date: 21 Aug 2001 Posts: 2,174	was this really a dry erase marker like the article implies? If so, then yeah I could see asking for a ridiculous amount, because that's a ridiculous arrest. If it wasn't a dry erase then that's a little different, but either way, an absolutely ridiculous arrest. and at that age being embarrassed like that in front of your whole school doesn't just go away either..so I can see why they are asking for a lot. Aim high, right? I don't think they should get a full 900,000 out of it, but I'd ask for a lot too...that way they offer you a higher amount when they try to make a settlement. __________________ The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. Rated [R] for retarded. Lord Woodlouse - "Talk about your pubes or fuck off."

Apr 4th 2010, 11:27am	#45
Ladiesman Spacebattles Maverick Join Date: 1 Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 20,581	hahaha. Wow when I was 12 my school desk was COVERED in drawings of skeletons and tanks blowing people up and monsters and shit. I'm so glad i'm old. What we do to kids in school today is awful. EDIT - Thinking of shit I did in school, if I were in school in todays world, I would probably be locked up in a mental institution or something. __________________ "The cock has put me at ease", William Shatner - Howard Stern Show 1996

Apr 5th 2010, 1:30am	#50
Desert Fox Vulpes zerda Commodore Join Date: 30 Nov 2003 Location: Trapped in the buckle of the Bible Belt (Tidewater, VA, next to Regent University) Posts: 17,600	So for those cops among us/ If you get called into a school for this, what would you tell the school? Could you just refuse to escort her out in handcuffs? __________________ "I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for his help because he might not be there." --Pat Robertson to Dover, PA

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