An entry with a Bang! - A BT roundrobin II

[Kerrus]

@Ed: We have an IRC channel now, and Mage is getting uppity. #AEwaB on irc.newnet.net

@Evil: Post 2nd invasion refers to the pirate invasion, not the Krin invasion.

[EdBecerra]

Originally Posted by PsyckoSama

Blame the French.

Or the French Canadians.

Here's your cheese, and your monkey.

Ed.

[EdBecerra]

Originally Posted by hyzmarca

I propose that in the Clancyverse Kearny is a short order cook in a small diner just outside the limits of Oklamahoma City and Fuchida is a long-haul trucker.

So together, they know how to cook a truck?

Deep-fat fried Optimus Prime.

Eleven herbs and spices... crunchy.



Ed.

[hyzmarca]

Originally Posted by VhenRa

However this is all academic... the odds of another ship jumping onto you are so fucking small you have a better shot of winning the lottery.

Odds become substantially higher as the volume of traffic moving in and out of the system increases. In the Sol System at the height of the Star League, I imagine that it was a real danger. Other extremely economically powerful systems would have similar issues. Standard traffic rules do become necessary once traffic volume reaches a certain point.

Latter Day Saints believe in continuing revelation, that God continually calls prophets. Though the CLDS isn't nearly as annoying to Islam as the Baha'i are. The Mormons are Christians and never believed in Mohammad or Islam. The Baha'i faith is an offshoot of Islam that recognizes Mohammad as a Prophet yet holds that he is not the Last Prophet, believing that Bahá'u'lláh was a Prophet after Mohammad.

Because of this, Baha'i are often considered to be apostate Muslims, apostacy being punishable by death in some of the more hardcore Islamic Republics.

[evilauthor]

Originally Posted by hyzmarca

Because of this, Baha'i are often considered to be apostate Muslims, apostacy being punishable by death in some of the more hardcore Islamic Republics.

In some of the more hardcore Islamic nations, just looking at a person funny could be punishable by death... assuming the two people involved were opposite genders.

Okay, maybe I exagerate...

[EdBecerra]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

And the jump denial zone of a sun-like star is about 9AU, correct? Since most Earthlike planets are about 1 AU from such stars, this "shortcut" only saves you about 1AU of distance. You might as well jump to a standard point then to the closest pirate point you can see.

Actually, Evil pretty much quoted Strategic Operations whether he intended to do so or not. The standard jump points were calc'ed, shortcuts to speed up those calcs (even if done by hand) were developed, and that was that.

"We've always done it this way, because it works."

"But there might be a better way!"

"Trying something different involves risk. We gotta working stardrive. Why risk getting God/Fate/Murphy/Whatever angry with us? We won the lotto. Let's stand pat now."

"That's cowardly."

"But safe."

That's more or less (including the fluff backstory) the summarized content of the jump drive section of Strategic Operations.

Ed

[EdBecerra]

Originally Posted by evilauthor

Except... a jump point is the MOST likely place where you'll run into space traffic because everyone uses them!



Every little bit helps. Think of the fuel savings man!

9 AU? Huh...

Proximity limit for Sol system, 10.2 AU. Page 134, Strategic Operations.

Ed.

[evilauthor]

Originally Posted by EdBecerra

Proximity limit for Sol system, 10.2 AU. Page 134, Strategic Operations.

Ed.

Bleah.

Still, 12 hours trip time seems like a reasonably cut down.

Originally Posted by The Distance of the Planets from the Sun
And Their Atmospheric Composition

Charles William Johnson

The corresponding numbers for the proportional representation, utilizing the planet Earth as the unit one for measurement, are given below:

Oh, c'mon! The jump limit is between Saturn and Uranus???

[VhenRa]

Originally Posted by evilauthor

Ah, okay. So it's basically custom enforced at gunpoint.

But for the invasion of Antallos, it might be a useful maneuver. Hell, there are quite a few canon invasions where it would have been useful!

Didnt the Kell Hounds at the end of book 1 of the Warrior Trilogy do a Hotloaded Pirate Jump in close to a planet... followed by another hotloaded jump roughly a day later?

[PsyckoSama]

Originally Posted by VhenRa

Didnt the Kell Hounds at the end of book 1 of the Warrior Trilogy do a Hotloaded Pirate Jump in close to a planet... followed by another hotloaded jump roughly a day later?

And that is what you call playing dice with god.

Do not do it if you don't have the Phantom 'Mech Ability.

[bookmonkey786]

Originally Posted by MageOhki

"GDI doesn't just want us to recover the core- they need us to make as much damn money as we can while doing it. The Canadians are sending the Seeker over uh-" Daniel threw a quick glance at his watch. "Now, give or take a few minutes."


(TBC)

Have you considered my idea of trading medical supply and chemicals in addition to farming equipment? Pound for pound meds might be the most profitable. And a portable Xray and ultrasound would be very well received. Aspirin painkillers antibiotics all those stuff would be easily traded and wouldn't raise too many eyebrows. Hell bring along a few million Viagra. Wouldn't take up any room at all would be very well received after a few free samples.

[Kerrus]

oh yes.

[Valiran]

Originally Posted by Barricade

Google it.

.....French Military Victories.

[EdBecerra]

Originally Posted by evilauthor

Bleah.

Still, 12 hours trip time seems like a reasonably cut down.

Oh, c'mon! The jump limit is between Saturn and Uranus???

There are so many potential jokes in that last line...

Ed.

[Valiran]

Originally Posted by EdBecerra

There are so many potential jokes in that last line...

Ed.

You've been remarkably cheerful lately Ed. What's up? Kill someone that desperately, unquestionably deserved it?

[Rodon]

Originally Posted by evilauthor

There, over at the navigation station, his navigator Damian was giving lessons to bunch of local barbarians. Over at another station, several “scientists” of dubious education had their so-called computer plugged into the White Elephant’s main frame and were currently poring over its programming. Off to the side, more primitives were doing wiring work of some kind, installing some gizmo or other. And of course, there was the ever threatening presence of the soldier by the bridge hatch.

It wasn’t all bad, Benson had to admit, even if to just himself. The locals had been busy going over every Jumpship in the aborted invasion fleet. They wanted to (ha!) learn how to build their own, so of course they wanted to examine everything. And in the course of their investigations, they had taken to sending up supplies, crafting replacement parts, and in general refurbishing the Jumpships as they went along. A real boon to the fix up work had been discovered on the Kyp Brahnigan in the form of a collection of maintenance manuals for Invader class Jumpships. Now every Invader had at least one copy.

The refitted Invaders can't really let any IS people onto their ships after this. Otherwise they will see striking differences from normal, the HD-screens for one. On the other end, I don't see the captains of the ships complaining too much, as they get spare parts for free (their biggest issue would be payments). I have no doubt that they will make the newly taken Port Krin as their home base.

Port Krin is likely going to make rounds as the place to pick up non-KF parts for Jump-Ships (and for manuals for the ships). Comstar might be annoyed by this, but it is only non-KF parts after all.

'They likely got the instructions for the part from the manuals.'

[Tweeky]

Originally Posted by hyzmarca

Because of this, Baha'i are often considered to be apostate Muslims, apostacy being punishable by death in some of the more hardcore Islamic Republics.

Umm, no, it is punishable by death (beheading) as prescribed in the Koran, it's only implemented in those countries (and no they aren't hard-core they're just being true to the koran; which is most emphatically a "Book of peace").

[Chaos Blade]

Originally Posted by Kerrus

I've actually got a fun idea for jumpship vs jumpship combat, and that's harpoons with tensor cable- you connect your ship to theirs along a metal line... and at that point they can't jump. Because yanno.

Those this be that we Flying the Jolly Rogers m'Captain?

[Chaos Blade]

Originally Posted by Barricade

Google it.

Come on Barricade don't be that mean, they did had quite a few victories under Bonaparte.
Who was from Corcega
and wasn't Italian by an accident of fate (since the island was Italian till about a few month before he was born)
and does have an Italian sounding last name

You know what?

I think I am going to shut up

:P

[Vianca]

Originally Posted by hyzmarca

I propose that in the Clancyverse Kearny is a short order cook in a small diner just outside the limits of Oklamahoma City and Fuchida is a long-haul trucker.

It's 2005, if they were 30 years of age at that time, then they would be now 13 years jonger(?).
Which means they are then 27.
It's possible, but depending on how old they were in BT when they did this in 2018, they could still be in school.

[Mosati]

Originally Posted by VhenRa

There is no dedicated jump arrivial point... You would have to move OUT OF THE FUCKING JUMP POINT... Moving inside the proxmity limit of the Star.

And if you can detect the Jumpship arriving... and are inside it... you are dead... really damn dead.

Jump Field is roughly 18 KMs... and you have maybe 20 Seconds to get out before the ship jumps ontop of you and fries either you or your drive. If you max your Jumpships drive... you will have traveled... ohh I don't know... 196 metres.

However this is all academic... the odds of another ship jumping onto you are so fucking small you have a better shot of winning the lottery.

The more I think about using the Zenith/Nadir jump points the more I see some bureaucrat back in the days of the Terran Alliance when jumpships were new getting pissy about organizing ship traffic, ship inspections and parking orbits and just mandated that everyone had to pick between two spots to come in.

For us I see every planet within jump range of a system getting their own arrival and departure zones spread around the jump denial zone. Not only does this improve efficiency for traffic but cuts down on the risk of jump-collisions. Leave the Zenith/Nadir for uninvited idiots to stumble into so they can be greeted by system defence battery's if they proove hostile.

"Jump signature detected in arival point X-3479."
"Arrival point and time matches with the scheduled arrival of the jumpship Mary Celeste out of New Sydney."
"Message from recharge station 42, transponder match with scheduled vessel. Sol Port Authority Inspection team has been dispatched for confirmation and ship inspection."

[Vianca]

Which is why I don't understand that only station keeping drives for normal Jumpships.
I mean you want another Jumpship jumping in ontop of you?
How do you prevend this with the more often visited planets?

[Posbi]

Does this story actually move ahead some time? And what's with the many story posts in this thread that have had popular approval but haven't been posted yet - at least two massive ones by Chris, some by Reziful, some by others - that all fit in the timeframe between the attack and the operation against Port Krin?

Maybe it's just me, but right now we are only driving people away from the story while not making any sort of true progress. And Helm & New Dallas still are a mess.

[Deathsheadx]

Originally Posted by Posbi

Does this story actually move ahead some time? And what's with the many story posts in this thread that have had popular approval but haven't been posted yet - at least two massive ones by Chris, some by Reziful, some by others - that all fit in the timeframe between the attack and the operation against Port Krin?

Maybe it's just me, but right now we are only driving people away from the story while not making any sort of true progress. And Helm & New Dallas still are a mess.

you probably won't see anything from chris he's pissed off with mage and psykco for some thing to do with stupidity of earth and destroying caches he said he was done.

[Posbi]

Originally Posted by Deathsheadx

you probably won't see anything from chris he's pissed off with mage and psykco for some thing to do with stupidity of earth and destroying caches he said he was done.

Hence...

...right now we are only driving people away from the story while not making any sort of true progress...