Chavez blows bridges to Colombia

Styxx · Nov 19th 2009, 12:24pm

Literally, according to the Colombian government.

Apparently two border bridges were destroyed by Venezuelan soldiers. Not many details and no sources in English yet, but I'll post them as soon as I find them.

http://noticias.terra.com.br/mundo/n...olombiano.html

http://oglobo.globo.com/mundo/mat/20...-914839118.asp

DonBosco · Nov 19th 2009, 12:32pm

English source

Two pedestrian bridges apparently.

Daniel2112 · Nov 19th 2009, 12:37pm

Does Colombia have any oil reserves to speak of? Chavez may just be giving Obama a helping hand 'n stuff.

ObssesedNuker · Nov 19th 2009, 1:25pm

No, but it's big in the drug trade. Wonder how many of those civies were smuggling coke.

Vladimir Rustov · Nov 19th 2009, 2:03pm

Styxx, could you please stop posting non-English sources ?

IRS · Nov 19th 2009, 5:10pm

Google translation is your friend...with some translation difficulties.

This sound like an escalation here given the tension over Venezuela's support for FARC.

Vanquisher221 · Nov 19th 2009, 5:22pm

Colombia has some oil reserves, I think, but not too much. I think they supply a lot of their domestic market.

On the other hand, since Venezuela's farming has been so mismanaged, Colombia supplies a great deal of Venezuela's foodstuffs. A great worsening in tensions would probably go worse for Chavez than for Colombia.

bookmonkey786 · Nov 20th 2009, 2:54am

More grand standing by Chavez. He took down a few rickety locally built bridge. So he can claim he "blew up bridges" but not anything of real value

Styxx · Nov 20th 2009, 6:26am

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Originally Posted by ObssesedNuker

No, but it's big in the drug trade. Wonder how many of those civies were smuggling coke.

Considering that Chavez actively supports the FARC, which are the main culprits for drug manufacturing in Colombia, I think he'd know exactly how many were "smuggling" coke into Venezuela.

Q99 · Nov 20th 2009, 8:36am

I'd be more worried about Venezuela invading Colombia than vice-versa.

Lokar · Nov 21st 2009, 3:53am

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Originally Posted by Q99

I'd be more worried about Venezuela invading Colombia than vice-versa.

That's because you bought into the Dubya neo-con(Jew) propaganada. Venezuela is a peace loving republic and Hugo Chavez is the most kindest, gentelest, most wonderful man in the world.

*URK*

Chavez has long had a history of picking on Columbia, mainly to paper over the problems in his own nation. There was a NYT article a week or so ago that talked about the sorry state of the power and water infrastructure in Venezuela. Odds are he is is just grandstanding for the people and maybe get something from Obama.

Dark Primus · Nov 21st 2009, 5:11am

So Chavez is not only paranoid but also tries to blame all fault to Colombia and distract Venezuelas people away from internal problems. That's what a dictator does. Is there someone on SB who happens to be a good sniper?

Lokar · Nov 21st 2009, 5:20am

Link to the article I mentioned above: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/wo...enez.html?_r=2

Aya · Nov 21st 2009, 9:15am

Some people burn bridges, Chavez says they're pussies.

So what are the military capabilities of both countries?

THeSquirrelKing · Nov 22nd 2009, 2:03pm

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Originally Posted by Styxx

FARC, which are the main culprits for drug manufacturing in Colombia

Do a little research.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aya

So what are the military capabilities of both countries?

Absolute shit, but one has the backing of a big, powerful, close patron.

Lokar · Nov 22nd 2009, 2:10pm

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Originally Posted by THeSquirrelKing

Absolute shit, but one has the backing of a big, powerful, close patron.

While its true that Chavez has made friends with Iran and the Russians are willing to sell him stuff since he has cash I doubt either are close enough to help him in a war situation.

Imperator Pax · Nov 22nd 2009, 2:14pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Primus

So Chavez is not only paranoid but also tries to blame all fault to Colombia and distract Venezuelas people away from internal problems. That's what a dictator does. Is there someone on SB who happens to be a good sniper?

.... maybe.

StarSpawn · Nov 22nd 2009, 4:56pm

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Originally Posted by THeSquirrelKing

Do a little research.

He is correct in a round about way, FARC provides protection for a major part of the Colombian cocaine production, even do they are not all that involved in it as a producer, that creates to many PR problems.

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Absolute shit, but one has the backing of a big, powerful, close patron.

Very numerous (combined over ½ million), and for the Colombians some very hard nose light infantry an mass, if they weren't so preoccupied at home they could make wonderful allies in A-stan.

CJvR · Nov 23rd 2009, 5:35am

Colombia some 220000 men in 7 light division complemented by mobile units and special forces.
Navy operates 4 frigates and 2 subs as well as a division sized marine unit. The airforce seems mainly to be geared for COIN with few serious combat aircrafts, mostly Mirage/Kfir.

Venezuela have some 60000 men in 5 infantry and 1 armored division with AMX30 and Scorpion90. The navy have 6 frigates and 2 subs and operates a brigade sized marine unit. The airforce have some 50 combat planes F5, F16, Mirage and their new SU-30.

SGTschlock · Nov 23rd 2009, 6:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lokar

Link to the article I mentioned above: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/11/wo...enez.html?_r=2

So it turns out that a radical socialist autocrat isn't actually that good at managing an economy?

Big surprise.

CJvR · Nov 23rd 2009, 12:12pm

Come now!

Surely you know that any problem in any socialist paradise is the fault of the evil capitalist world being nasty to it.

Nov 19th 2009, 12:24pm	#1
Styxx Hopeful Skeptic Join Date: 12 Mar 2001 Location: República Riograndense Posts: 4,641	Chavez blows bridges to Colombia Literally, according to the Colombian government. Apparently two border bridges were destroyed by Venezuelan soldiers. Not many details and no sources in English yet, but I'll post them as soon as I find them. http://noticias.terra.com.br/mundo/n...olombiano.html http://oglobo.globo.com/mundo/mat/20...-914839118.asp __________________ In the post-apocalyptic future, spacebattlers will stand around a great field of dirt, scratching their posts into the soil with sticks, noone actually talking to each other. -- Wolfius

Nov 19th 2009, 12:32pm	#2
DonBosco Registered Join Date: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 1,948	English source Two pedestrian bridges apparently. __________________ Miserere mei Domine quoniam infirmus sum sana me Domine quoniam conturbata sunt ossa mea

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Vanquisher221 Pimp Marine Join Date: 24 May 2004 Location: Lurking Posts: 1,984	Colombia has some oil reserves, I think, but not too much. I think they supply a lot of their domestic market. On the other hand, since Venezuela's farming has been so mismanaged, Colombia supplies a great deal of Venezuela's foodstuffs. A great worsening in tensions would probably go worse for Chavez than for Colombia.

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Dark Primus TRANSFORMERS RULES Join Date: 14 Nov 1999 Location: Haninge, Sweden Posts: 23,769	So Chavez is not only paranoid but also tries to blame all fault to Colombia and distract Venezuelas people away from internal problems. That's what a dictator does. Is there someone on SB who happens to be a good sniper? __________________ "I'm a warship and I don't like walking away from a fight." - Rommie, Andromeda. Originally Posted by IJW "If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck... It's a daemon, kill it! Kill it with fire!"

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Nov 23rd 2009, 5:35am	#19
CJvR Registered Join Date: 20 May 2002 Location: Scandinavia Posts: 943	Colombia some 220000 men in 7 light division complemented by mobile units and special forces. Navy operates 4 frigates and 2 subs as well as a division sized marine unit. The airforce seems mainly to be geared for COIN with few serious combat aircrafts, mostly Mirage/Kfir. Venezuela have some 60000 men in 5 infantry and 1 armored division with AMX30 and Scorpion90. The navy have 6 frigates and 2 subs and operates a brigade sized marine unit. The airforce have some 50 combat planes F5, F16, Mirage and their new SU-30. __________________ CJvR

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