Non "Traditional" Vampires

Desert Fox · Nov 27th 2009, 9:25am

In this, I do not mean that vampires that "Sparkle" but in style. I mean regular vampires that seem to break the stereotype of vampires.

For example, in a novel I just read, there was a vampire who dressed in pink and reminded people more of Britney Spears than anyone else. It is aa great way of disarming them.

Any other vampire characters who use similar tricks to that from novels (or other media) or have suggestions under those lines that you have thought about?

Nonoxynol9 · Nov 27th 2009, 9:32am

Not sure how this relates to the OP (as far as teen vamps dressed in pink), but the vampires in Poppy Z. Brite's Lost Souls had a pretty different take on the vampire. They were definitely gay, but definitely NOT Twilight vamps, either. It was a weird, yet good book, overall.

DigiCom · Nov 27th 2009, 9:43am

There's Lady Margolatta (from the Discworld) who looks like a maiden aunt. And in a book I just read (called Soulless) there's a vampire who (over)dresses as a fashion statement.

Hiver · Nov 27th 2009, 9:43am

Alucard in hellsing i think fit.

Shadow Archon · Nov 27th 2009, 10:23am

Oh, so no Great Vampires from Doctor Who who can take hits from Star Killers?

parker · Nov 27th 2009, 10:29am

There's a breed of vampires from South America who grow giant heads and have elephant tusk fangs.

Desert Fox · Nov 27th 2009, 10:31am

Did you read what I was asking, not traditional in their "artistry"?

rogrd · Nov 27th 2009, 10:38am

Echoe your statement, definitely Great vampires from Dcotor Who

There's teh vampires from Lifeforce

Brian Lumley's Wamphyri, surprisingly similar to ones in the film, The Cave.

Damar · Nov 27th 2009, 10:40am

Thomas Raith from the Dresden Files. He had the hypnotic power of looking good in anything, and abused that power a lot. Like when needing to show up at a serious duel, he did so arriving drunk in a sportscar playing loud techno music and dressed up like a 80's pop dancer.

Hiver · Nov 27th 2009, 11:10am

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Originally Posted by Damar

Thomas Raith from the Dresden Files.

Toe-mass is awesome

Forgetful · Nov 27th 2009, 11:23am

The video game Vampires? Um with the snaky swords and stuff?

Don Blake · Nov 27th 2009, 1:55pm

Neil Gaiman's short story 'Vampire Tarot' or 'Major Vampire Arcana' or something to that effect had a vampire who was host of a daytime TV talkshow. Interviewing a heavily made up woman who claimed to drink her boyfriends' blood.

EarthScorpion · Nov 27th 2009, 4:00pm

There's a Daeva in their Clanbook, for Vampire: the Requiem, who has adopted a rather unusual hunting strategy. According to the rather catty narrator, she's only a 4 on his attractiveness scale, but she dyes her hair that red shade, puts on glasses, learned the lingo, wears gaming T-shirts, and becomes the hottest girl in the room in evening meetings of nerds and geeks. And, well, if they look a bit pasty and anemic... they're geeks. They probably spend all their time in the basement, and run screening from the sun. They get out of breath and tired easily? They're just unfit.

It's actually a rather good hunting style, and she exploits it ruthlessly. And it would totally work in real life, too.

WyldCard4 · Nov 27th 2009, 4:03pm

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Originally Posted by EarthScorpion

There's a Daeva in their Clanbook, for Vampire: the Requiem, who has adopted a rather unusual hunting strategy. According to the rather catty narrator, she's only a 4 on his attractiveness scale, but she dyes her hair that red shade, puts on glasses, learned the lingo, wears gaming T-shirts, and becomes the hottest girl in the room in evening meetings of nerds and geeks. And, well, if they look a bit pasty and anemic... they're geeks. They probably spend all their time in the basement, and run screening from the sun. They get out of breath and tired easily? They're just unfit.

It's actually a rather good hunting style, and she exploits it ruthlessly. And it would totally work in real life, too.

Hm...

That is a rather interesting idea. A bit reliant on stereotypes, but still pretty amusing.

Any vampire that had to do something like that is too weak to deserve the title. If she's simply doing it for fun, more power to her.

CrossoverManiac · Nov 27th 2009, 4:05pm

"Younger" vampires who still have an attachment to their human lives working at retirement homes to be around people who was born in the same era they were.

Several mythological monsters are really vampires with obsessive compulsive disorders. Succubi and incubi are vampires with sexual obsessions. Zombies are vampires with eating disorders. The Banshee is one solitary vampire who becomes so telepathically attached to the locals, she loves them like a close family member even though she never actually meets them and mourns for their deaths.

EarthScorpion · Nov 27th 2009, 4:31pm

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Originally Posted by WyldCard4

Any vampire that had to do something like that is too weak to deserve the title. If she's simply doing it for fun, more power to her.

Uh... as far as I'm aware, the things needed for a title of vampire is "uh, drinking human blood." And nWoD kindred most certainly don't sparkle. Unless they've covered themselves in body-glitter, and have adopted the role of the boy-toy of the ghouled manager of a band that they own, and travel from domain to domain, feeding off the audience. Which was another vampire described in the same section.

And nWoD vampires actually need a lot more blood than quite a lot of other universe's Vampires. Just by unliving, they get through 1 Vitae a night, even if they sit quietly in a corner, and quite a lot more if they're active and using blood magics. I think 1 Vitae has been calculated at about half a litre of blood, so they also need a lot of separate donors if they don't want to kill them, and killing them weakens the Man, and strengthens the Beast. Seriously, most of Requiem's politics are fundamentally organised around obtaining blood, about building stable herds, and gaining influence over society so that you can keep being able to get blood, and live in comfort. And blood is only worth 1/8 as much if it isn't drunk from a host, so they can't really survive on donated blood plausibly.

Put a nWoD vampire on a Twilight-style diet, or even a Hellsing (peacetime) diet, and they'd probably starve into torpor within a week. They need blood, and so they need to find a way of stably getting blood without pissing off other vampires, or other supernaturals, or being found by mortals, or the other dangers of the WoD. This girl was a genius to find this niche.

A good way at looking at the attitudes of nWoD Vampires, is that they're people, who have had their "social pursuit predator" instincts replaced by "lone ambush hunter" instincts. So they use their grasp on their humanity to make things easier for them, and allow them to interact with other vampires without the Beast getting angry at another predator in its territories, and get through another night.

Avernus · Nov 27th 2009, 5:01pm

There was the alcoholic vampire in the Callahan's Place novels, who fed exclusively on drunken people and as a side effect kept them from getting hangovers. And who being drunk naturally didn't notice being fed upon.

CnB · Nov 27th 2009, 5:09pm

Karin Maaka, the blood giver/maker.

The B5 fan · Nov 27th 2009, 7:47pm

That vampire in Monstrous Regiment replaced an addiction to blood with an addiction to coffee.

Aratech · Nov 27th 2009, 8:06pm

Legacy of Kain vampires certainly fit the bill.

Desert Fox · Nov 27th 2009, 8:09pm

In one of the "Kitty" books, Kitty talked to a vampire on her talk radio program who worked as an night convenience store clerk and had never met any vampires except the one who made him and then just disappeared. There are some pretty weak vampires in some fiction.

DogBoy · Nov 27th 2009, 8:29pm

That professional wrestler vampire from the Shadow Hearts game. Joachime I think his name was.

Reaper_93 · Nov 27th 2009, 8:38pm

Alucard probably fits the bill pretty well, as mentioned above.

Vampires generally aren't cross-bred with the T-1000 after all

Nov 27th 2009, 9:25am	#1
Desert Fox Vulpes zerda Commodore Join Date: 30 Nov 2003 Location: Trapped in the buckle of the Bible Belt (Tidewater, VA, next to Regent University) Posts: 17,601	Non "Traditional" Vampires In this, I do not mean that vampires that "Sparkle" but in style. I mean regular vampires that seem to break the stereotype of vampires. For example, in a novel I just read, there was a vampire who dressed in pink and reminded people more of Britney Spears than anyone else. It is aa great way of disarming them. Any other vampire characters who use similar tricks to that from novels (or other media) or have suggestions under those lines that you have thought about? __________________ "I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for his help because he might not be there." --Pat Robertson to Dover, PA

Nov 27th 2009, 9:32am	#2
Nonoxynol9 Stop Breeding, Please Join Date: 20 Feb 2004 Location: Xenia, Ohio, USA Posts: 1,577	Not sure how this relates to the OP (as far as teen vamps dressed in pink), but the vampires in Poppy Z. Brite's Lost Souls had a pretty different take on the vampire. They were definitely gay, but definitely NOT Twilight vamps, either. It was a weird, yet good book, overall. __________________ Fire the laser beam!

Nov 27th 2009, 9:43am	#3
DigiCom Old School Geek Join Date: 12 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,623	There's Lady Margolatta (from the Discworld) who looks like a maiden aunt. And in a book I just read (called Soulless) there's a vampire who (over)dresses as a fashion statement. __________________ Mario Di Giacomo Beware Of Geek

Nov 27th 2009, 9:43am	#4
Hiver Registered Join Date: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 3,067	Alucard in hellsing i think fit. __________________ ‘Opinion as to what?’ Karrish said, with a shade of hysteria, as the image rotated in front of them all. ‘Precisely how little sense they make? The tentacle count per square metre? An evolutionary path that has to add up to “a wizard did it, and then they ate him”? -The reaction of Karrish, medical officer on the first Imperial Star Destroyer running into the Tyranids

Nov 27th 2009, 10:29am	#6
parker Student of Life Join Date: 22 Feb 2009 Posts: 320	There's a breed of vampires from South America who grow giant heads and have elephant tusk fangs. __________________ I believe that one can not truly be a member of mankind without first embracing Science, Philosophy, and Religion in equal parts. Fuck the Volksfront.

Nov 27th 2009, 10:23am	#5
Shadow Archon Ulrezaj Join Date: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,095	Oh, so no Great Vampires from Doctor Who who can take hits from Star Killers?

Nov 27th 2009, 10:31am	#7
Desert Fox Vulpes zerda Commodore Join Date: 30 Nov 2003 Location: Trapped in the buckle of the Bible Belt (Tidewater, VA, next to Regent University) Posts: 17,601	Did you read what I was asking, not traditional in their "artistry"? __________________ "I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for his help because he might not be there." --Pat Robertson to Dover, PA

Nov 27th 2009, 10:38am	#8
rogrd Registered Join Date: 6 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,725	Echoe your statement, definitely Great vampires from Dcotor Who There's teh vampires from Lifeforce Brian Lumley's Wamphyri, surprisingly similar to ones in the film, The Cave.

Nov 27th 2009, 10:40am	#9
Damar BFM Join Date: 2 Sep 2004 Location: Cardassia Prime Posts: 39,152	Thomas Raith from the Dresden Files. He had the hypnotic power of looking good in anything, and abused that power a lot. Like when needing to show up at a serious duel, he did so arriving drunk in a sportscar playing loud techno music and dressed up like a 80's pop dancer. __________________ I am Damar, Space Duck of SB, Defender of the Cardassians "Send the bitch with the wheels right now or I'll fly back to England and give your wife something to hang her towels on." -Lord Flashheart Best of Rifftrax: Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

Nov 27th 2009, 1:55pm	#12
Don Blake BANNED as a joke stealer Join Date: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 4,902	Neil Gaiman's short story 'Vampire Tarot' or 'Major Vampire Arcana' or something to that effect had a vampire who was host of a daytime TV talkshow. Interviewing a heavily made up woman who claimed to drink her boyfriends' blood.

Nov 27th 2009, 4:00pm	#13
EarthScorpion Observations in Progress Join Date: 14 Aug 2006 Posts: 3,482	There's a Daeva in their Clanbook, for Vampire: the Requiem, who has adopted a rather unusual hunting strategy. According to the rather catty narrator, she's only a 4 on his attractiveness scale, but she dyes her hair that red shade, puts on glasses, learned the lingo, wears gaming T-shirts, and becomes the hottest girl in the room in evening meetings of nerds and geeks. And, well, if they look a bit pasty and anemic... they're geeks. They probably spend all their time in the basement, and run screening from the sun. They get out of breath and tired easily? They're just unfit. It's actually a rather good hunting style, and she exploits it ruthlessly. And it would totally work in real life, too. __________________ She was a very disturbed child. Terrible, dehabilitating nightmares. Hallucinations. Hysteria. She never had a chance at a normal life. Author of Aeon Entelechy Evangelion, an Evangelion/C̵͞thulhutech crossover fic. With tropes. Check out the rest of my stories at FanFiction.net. Iä! Iä!

Nov 27th 2009, 4:05pm	#15
CrossoverManiac Best dressed avatar Otaku Join Date: 26 Aug 2002 Posts: 7,338	"Younger" vampires who still have an attachment to their human lives working at retirement homes to be around people who was born in the same era they were. Several mythological monsters are really vampires with obsessive compulsive disorders. Succubi and incubi are vampires with sexual obsessions. Zombies are vampires with eating disorders. The Banshee is one solitary vampire who becomes so telepathically attached to the locals, she loves them like a close family member even though she never actually meets them and mourns for their deaths. __________________ The Space Show-the only radio talk show covering commercial space. "When I look at a Skylab or a Saturn-V rocket, I see a work of art. Engineers have the privilege of being both an artist and a man of science."-Me "ATTENTION UK: 1984 was a warning, not an instruction manual!"-Tycho "Glen Beck is a giant show and all you people are following it like he's a villain in Star Wars."-TK99 on how SB.com is tsundere for Glenn Beck Last edited by CrossoverManiac; Nov 27th 2009 at 4:13pm.

Nov 27th 2009, 5:01pm	#17
Avernus Abomination Join Date: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 4,440	There was the alcoholic vampire in the Callahan's Place novels, who fed exclusively on drunken people and as a side effect kept them from getting hangovers. And who being drunk naturally didn't notice being fed upon. __________________ If your technology can be distinguished from magic, it isn't advanced enough. "I don't duel, boy. I kill as a soldier kills, which is as a butcher kills, as quickly, efficiently, and with as least risk to myself as I can arrange. If I decide you die, you will die when I choose, where I choose, by what means I choose, and you will never see the blow coming." - Cazaril "Why should we do what you say ?!" "Because I am the dragon. You . . . are NOT the dragon. Any questions ?"

Nov 27th 2009, 5:09pm	#18
CnB Registered Join Date: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1,342	Karin Maaka, the blood giver/maker.

Nov 27th 2009, 7:47pm	#19
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Nov 27th 2009, 8:06pm	#20
Aratech Expendable Clone Assassin Join Date: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 14,346	Legacy of Kain vampires certainly fit the bill. __________________ Still, you gotta admire Federation morale. The redshirts die in droves yet we never see one complaining about being sent down on an Away Team, even though his chances of survival are less than that of a Klingon dumped onto the ground floor of Kashyyyk. "A golden sovereign to the first that reviews it lads.....I'll flame Bay around the forums, and around the Rotten Tomatoes maelstrom, and around perdition's flames before I give him up."

Nov 27th 2009, 8:09pm	#21
Desert Fox Vulpes zerda Commodore Join Date: 30 Nov 2003 Location: Trapped in the buckle of the Bible Belt (Tidewater, VA, next to Regent University) Posts: 17,601	In one of the "Kitty" books, Kitty talked to a vampire on her talk radio program who worked as an night convenience store clerk and had never met any vampires except the one who made him and then just disappeared. There are some pretty weak vampires in some fiction. __________________ "I'd like to say to the good citizens of Dover: If there is a disaster in your area, don't turn to God, you just rejected him from your city. And don't wonder why he hasn't helped you when problems begin, if they begin. I'm not saying they will, but if they do, just remember, you just voted God out of your city. And if that's the case, don't ask for his help because he might not be there." --Pat Robertson to Dover, PA

Nov 27th 2009, 8:29pm	#22
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