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Old Apr 24th 2006, 3:56pm   #1
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Practical Spacewarp Design

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Probably my releasd paper about the schematic design of a practical spacewarp can be considered as a nice matter. That's placed on:

http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0511086

The aim of this post is providing the possibility of introducing it to more numbers of people which I believe that's in favor of improving the science and a service to the mankind. However, your personal opinion on my work is important to me too.I guess you might be able and/or interested to help me at least via making a link of the above address within your page(s) or presenting it to more media. So, please give a clear answer to my request.

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http://www.americanantigravity.com/a...nian-Einstein?

http://extremetechnology.blogspot.co...spacewarp.html

http://www.stardrivedevice.com/links.html
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Old Apr 24th 2006, 9:20pm   #2
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Wrong forum, man. Unless your going to write a story about it.
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Old Apr 24th 2006, 10:08pm   #3
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Very interesting stuff...and quite heady.

I think this is too advanced for anyone on this forum, man--that includes yours truly.
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Old Apr 24th 2006, 10:17pm   #4
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Very interesting stuff...and quite heady.

I think this is too advanced for anyone on this forum, man--that includes yours truly.
It's a great premise that I have read about in the past. Keep up the good work.
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Old Apr 25th 2006, 6:04am   #5
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Dear friends,

Thank you all. I'm gonna build it, please feel free to guide me what would you do, if you were in my shoes?

Cheers,
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Old Apr 25th 2006, 1:06pm   #6
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This might sound stupid but it' seems that the further the RELATIVE two points of the wormhole is, the easier it would be to keep it stable, evne thru it would also demand that much more control (Not a typo).
This means that even thru it is harder to keep open it is much less likely to close prematurely for reasons unregonized since it leeway is much greater the longer the relative distance.
At a glance it would probably mean that travel to other galaxies could in fact be easier than a trip to Proxima Centauri.

And yes i have an seriuos interst in this area.
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Old Sep 10th 2006, 5:44pm   #7
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Hi everybody,

I’m back and ready to talk to you if you wish. BTW, these two forums show what I was doing:

http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/...topic=230&st=0

http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=3882

Wish to hear good new from you,
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Old Mar 26th 2007, 5:04am   #8
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Old Mar 26th 2007, 5:06am   #9
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Old Mar 26th 2007, 9:04am   #10
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Intriguing! Now we got two possible starting points for FTL travel.



Sorry, had to do that!
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Old Mar 26th 2007, 1:22pm   #11
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Pfft. Get cracking on building it then, slugger.
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Old Mar 26th 2007, 2:46pm   #12
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I'm guessing from your name and the language of your posts that English is not your first language?


This is largely an internet forum discussing science fiction, with an emphasis on the "fiction" part. That said, you actually are publishing your work in a scientific journal, which makes you seem much more reasonable than most people who post about their revolutionary "science" on the Internet.

It looks like you're doing good work. Keep it up, and you might wind up a household name someday.
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Old Mar 26th 2007, 2:57pm   #13
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Hmmm... very nice.

Not that I understand a word of it.

Keep it up. Maybe something will come of it someday.
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Old Mar 26th 2007, 3:28pm   #14
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Hi guys,

I request you please tell your comments on the social ramifications of this technology. Below article probably would give the required insights:

http://www.worldnewschronicle.com/ar...rticleID=14221

and its attached interview:

http://www.starstreamresearch.com/mammad_interview.htm

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Old Mar 26th 2007, 6:13pm   #15
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Workable wormhole technology would be every military's wet dream and worst nightmare.

Wet dream because it would make launching an attack so easy- just fire up the gate and drive your army through. Worst nightmare because your enemies could do the exact same thing, and there's nothing you can do to stop them.

Also, would there be any range limits on this, or would we be able to open a portal to the other side of the universe as easily as opening one onto Earth? If so, I wouldn't be surprised if we sent a colonization expedition somewhere extremely remote, to serve as a "back up" of humanity, in case we do envelop ourselves in nuclear fire. Or the theoretical weaponized wormholes (open a wormhole into the Sun?).
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Old Mar 27th 2007, 4:23am   #16
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This is largely an internet forum discussing science fiction, with an emphasis on the "fiction" part.
However, much surprisingly, you cannot deny this special branch of science has unbelievable similarities to the fiction, can you?

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Workable wormhole technology would be every military's wet dream and worst nightmare.
Hence, do you have any idea of minimizing the potential dangers?

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Wet dream because it would make launching an attack so easy- just fire up the gate and drive your army through. Worst nightmare because your enemies could do the exact same thing, and there's nothing you can do to stop them.
You’re my military strategist pal … as a matter of fact, & with all due respect to all the humans who always have had peaceful mentalities, & all innocent ones who have died in non-aggressive wars, I think the fighting is an action belonging to the animals.
In an optimist POV, your prediction would cause a really stable global peace, but in a cynical POV, it might convert the world to a terrible jungle, an extreme anarchy. It’s our choice: Would we want peace & comfort for all, yes for all not a minority, I repeat for all of the people of this planet, OR continue the present asymmetric situation?
You know, this technology would change the human’s nature, with no exaggeration.

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Also, would there be any range limits on this, or would we be able to open a portal to the other side of the universe as easily as opening one onto Earth?
According to my considerations, the short-range applications are much easier to achieve, however some parts of my results are to be kept as secrets.

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If so, I wouldn't be surprised if we sent a colonization expedition somewhere extremely remote, to serve as a "back up" of humanity, in case we do envelop ourselves in nuclear fire.
Damn on any nuclear fire! However, the above scenario is being much expected. A unique possibility of survival …

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Or the theoretical weaponized wormholes (open a wormhole into the Sun?).
By adjusting a bundle of intelligent warped spacetime, we could cause directing … of course to fight with badness, we should know it, but let’s not talk about such stuffs, OK?
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Opening the Star Gate

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Okay, social effects.

I think that it would depend on a few factors. The first is how much energy and time is required to generate the gate (and to generate whatever negative energy you need to do that). The second is whether or not it requires more of the above to open a bigger gate. If so, it would depend on how the energy/size curve increased (exponential, quadratic, linear, logarithmic, etc.) The third is whether or not it requires more of the above to open it to a point that is further away (and, again, the form of the increase, if any). Also, does it require more energy when it is leaving a gravity well (for instance, does it take more energy to open a wormhole into orbit than it would for a rocket to go there conventionally)? Would you weigh in on these points, please?

It could well range from Culture-style "teleporting food and minor conveniences on command" to it simply being used for interstellar shipping.
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Hello to All

Probably my releasd paper about the schematic design of a practical spacewarp can be considered as a nice matter. That's placed on:

http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0511086

The aim of this post is providing the possibility of introducing it to more numbers of people which I believe that's in favor of improving the science and a service to the mankind. However, your personal opinion on my work is important to me too.I guess you might be able and/or interested to help me at least via making a link of the above address within your page(s) or presenting it to more media. So, please give a clear answer to my request.

Best Regards
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http://www.mansouryar.com/

P.S.: A simplified description of my work is viewable on:

http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=561

http://www.americanantigravity.com/a...nian-Einstein?

http://extremetechnology.blogspot.co...spacewarp.html

http://www.stardrivedevice.com/links.html

How many forums have I seen this on?

I think the last time was Superherohype, i'm sure I could post a link.


Classic Troll.
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Old Mar 29th 2007, 4:32pm   #21
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How many forums have I seen this on?
Yeah, I was amateur.

nick012000,

You’ve brought up many technical features & a very general social statement, while I’d requested to deal with the latter in details, not former ...
About weighting those points … sorry … please assume the factors as most pleasant as you like.

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Old Apr 2nd 2007, 1:13am   #22
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Any stop point in practical wormholes technology?

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Any point in replying to this dingus?
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Old Apr 2nd 2007, 7:50am   #24
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I'm not sure. I do know that if he really is as eager to get into the States as he seems to be, he'd be able to pull it off easy enough. Just buy a plane ticket to Mexico and drive up to San Fransisco. If he visits a church along to way to convert away from Islam (death penalty crime in Iran, I think), he'd be able to claim political refugee status if the immigration people catch him.

Also, wouldn't the use of FTL create time travel as a side effect? I'd imagine that could have quite... interesting effects on society.
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There are a lot of factors to consider: Power drain, expense, range, accuracy, type of wormhole, does at least one end have to be connected to a machine or are both ends free to move, do both ends need machines? One scenario is it's so cheap to build wormhole machines, and maintain wormholes constantly that all mass transit is replaced by wormholes. Instead of entering a subway to go ten blocks uptown, I would step through a worm hole and one step later I'm where I was going. I do the same the next day but end up in Germany for a one day vacation.

Now imagine this, if the machines were cheap enough someone could have a personal and remotely controlled wormhole machine. Just imagine it, you could drop yourself off anywhere and retrieve your self from anywhere. Pass ports would be no better than normal forms of ID and checkpoints would be completely useless. Governments will react two ways, higher security, or open boarders. There is a sort of middle ground, I imagine the process of a wormhole's end point opening would be distinct and noticeable. If that's correct, what many countries might do is create a nationwide network of sensors to detect anyone, or all the, qualities of such an event and send agents to such unannounced openings. That would lead to two more possibilities, either governments will allow wormholes to be opened anywhere if you set it up according to government guidelines, with a few restrictions, similar to civilian flight, or they will ban all civilian openings and only the government or government permitted companies will be allowed to open wormholes. Some places will get nastier, others might be forced into greater unity with their neighbors.

At the opposite end, wormhole machines could be extremely expensive, only governments and other significant organizations able to buy and run them. Random use by civilians and terrorists will be less of a concern and terrorism would be better recognized as an attack by a government. For the public side of things, you might have international wormholes, at best, a country like the use might have a few interstate wormholes to augment air travel.

I didn't touch the military side of things in those but I'm wondering, if you open a wormhole end in a wall, what would happen? Are both ends free to move, if so then you could open one end in an enemy country and the other in the sun. If not, depending on price, you could drop or bring in a wormhole generator to an enemy country and then connect the other end to the sun, destroying the country and generator. Do the wormholes have a thickness of zero and can they be swung around while open? If so, you could cut things with no more effort than it takes to move the wormhole by swinging it edge on, you might be able to cut things by moving it face on too, if the edge has zero thickness. How much energy does it take to move an open wormhole, if it doesn't take much, and if they can cut stuff in the ways I described above, you could have man portable wormhole projector weapons.

You asked about defense against wormholes. I keep asking but is one end of the wormhole tied to a machine, or are both ends free, or both ends tied. The first method of defense is to control all wormhole machines, if you do that you don't have to worry about attack so much but you still have to worry. It seems obvious but it leads to serious events. The second, you could secretly control all wormhole machines. Third, if there is a way to open a wormhole, there should be a way to force it closed, this goes for the first example still. If you can detect wormholes and react fast enough maybe you could shoot something into the wormhole and destroy the machine at the other end, or even use the same process that opens the wormhole to close it at the defending side. If both ends are free, then that method should definitely work. The third possibility, where both ends are tied down, is the easiest to defend against, just don't turn on your machine, if you really have to, blow it up or do something that forces the wormhole closed.

I have a word of advice, or caution for you, you already seem to know it but if you can make this happen it will definitely be used as a weapon, not matter what. It will also have numerous socially beneficial effects as well. Don't let the negative overshadow the much larger positive that will also definitely happen.
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