An Entry With A Bang - Thread 10

Discussion in 'Battletech Roundrobin' started by EdBecerra, Feb 29, 2012.

  1. DanTheVanMan 1.Work 2.Food 3.Family

    http://www.biggameinfo.com/BalCalc.aspx http://www.handloads.com/calc/

    Now thats true of BTech comps, who's bulky and 'fuzzy logic' computers aren't really suited to precision computation of ballistic tracks. However, on RL Earth, never mind CEarth, our 'object based' programming languages and small intergrated electronic can easily deal with the changes in multiple variables.

    Its not that difficult to have sensor systems ala modern MBTs to monitor a dozen or so varibles, and compute for a better solution on each shot, so story wise its already been proven that CEarth has the superior targeting computer and related doctrine - eventually the IS will figure it out too as CEarth comp tech spreads.

    This site gives an excellent overview of artillery calcs. (BTW - wasn't there a big hoopla a month or two ago about some equation being solved that dealt with ballistics, and thats why every different weapons system had to be calibrated manually before?)
  2. Personally my headcanon for the abysmal performance by BT arty is that for the longest time arty was not needed.

    In the beginning there was only one state. They would be assured that they'd have orbital artillery for all low level conflicts they'd run into.
    So arty is being relegated lower and lower on the budget pole.

    When the BT nations begin to stir arty is known about and considered useful but a) There hasn't been actual production of arty for centuries now and b) there is still no ordnance against orbital bombardement.

    Basically until the Succession Wars came around the sort of targets that justify divisional arty, and thus the massive investment in producing and improving arty, were also considered viable for orbital bombardment (or nukes). And since that made BT arty kind of superflous there wasn't really any kind of impetus to actually develop BT arty systems. The reason that canon BT arty systems look like primitve copies of post WW2 RL arty is that it is quite reasonable to assume that when a BT power needed an arty system the designers hit the history books and thiose designs where the last that saw widespread - and thus to a BT point of view successful - use.
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  3. Thats the first good explanation I've ever seen for BT artillery.
  4. Ahem! We have a tech thread people & this isn't it.
  5. Yes you right but the differences should have been known after the first planetary survey and if for some reason they were not they should have been known by the first month of being settled.

    Most of those are always changing on earth too the only thing that would be different is gravity, atmospheric thickness, and planetary rotation speed. As I said those should be known by time there people on the planet to fight anyway. If for some reason they are not known they can be found out in an hour or two so not a problem.

    I do not think they would carry those books anyway they are most likely for classroom use only. I believe for the field all that is needed is to know where you are where your target is and some simple geometry and for long distances the wind speed and for really long distances the rotation speed and on a planet other than earth the gravity and air thickness witch should not be hard to find out.

    Yes for BT your are right and I did say that if it was used it was not used very much and as for fixed locations there are not many in BT compared to the many battles in the middle of no were.
  6. Barricade Nyan! I mean, Myon!

    Well, no matter what, as soon as CSN styled micro-computers hit the markets in large numbers all over the Inner Sphere, you can expect EVERYONE'S artillery to get much nastier all around. No matter who's side is firing the cannons, GDI, AFFC, DCMS, FWLM, CCAF, whatever - it's going to get nasty.

    off-topic...
    Dear god is there one HELL of a dry thunderstorm going off around me right now. I live on one side of a valley near a lake, and I just watched a lightning strike nail a tree on the other side of the valley. Either it just burst into flames (and btw, it's still on fire), or that tree, which had to be bone dry by now, probably exploded.
  7. Durabys Your little Eldritch feline demon..meow!

    The reaction of the Clans to that little fact will be simply HILARIOUS to watch! :D
  8. captain melgar learn the words

    we should be able to kill you beyoned the range of your gun's. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!
  9. "And you let this... Colonel of the Russian Army bid what exactly, again ?"

    "Every piece of artillery that could rango onto the combat zone withhiin a week, Star Commander"

    "And you did absolutely nothing to ascertain to what, exactly, you had agreed too ?"

    "I know now Star Commander. But until here most planets we have fought on were fortunate to have maybe a handful of batteries, total, of guns."

    "Well, that's not the case here, aff ?"

    Not pictured: a whole fucking lot of gun.
  10. Impossible to picture: the Clanners' faces.
  11. captain melgar learn the words

  12. If that is on C-Earth that would be enough to destroy at least an entire cluster of mechs.
  13. walkir Aewab Lurker

    That's probably near Tunguska. The region there doesn't even notice the bombardment any more..
  14. Durabys Your little Eldritch feline demon..meow!

    ..especially for Clan Nova Cat. Meow. :rolleyes::D
  15. JonBerry FanFic Writer

    Isn't it supposed to be the Ravens or the Foxes scheduled to attack CEarth directly, or was that purely in the non-cannot thread to show off later/optimal goodies?
  16. Like a lot of the snippets in the non-canon thread it could become a part of the main story or not.
  17. I think Snow Raven was planned because the SWA navy would be the only non-C* force fielding warships. The Dragoons might have a single warship, and others would probably have individual prototypes, but the SWAN could have a small task force because nobody else would start the design process until they realized the SWA was actually going to succeed in building new warships.

    Ravens versus SWAN gives the best space battles bar C* breaking out their hidden fleet to fight the clans.
  18. I always took those snippets to be what-if's as I thought - and think - that by the time the Clans roll around CEarth space is effectivly better defended than anyplace in the IS but maybe BT Earth (Assuming C* gets off its ass).
  19. A lot of them are what ifs but some of them are there waiting for the story to get to the right time to put them in.
  20. How does SWAN fight though ? Do they prefer battles of maneuver or attrition ?
  21. Was anyone ever selected to be story dictator who makes the final call on what gets allowed?
  22. captain melgar learn the words

    i don't believe so no. if we do how ever decided to do that then my vote to "jonberry" his story snip-its are by inlarge the most exepted by we unwashed masses, if he excepts he may not want to do that AND countinue writing.
  23. I bring it up because I'm two seconds away from volunteering for it myself if it will get the story back on track.
  24. It is not the lack of people that want the job that no one has it. It is that short of a mod no one has the ability to backup there word. We have had many a time where some people refused to back down when no one else agreed with them or refused to acknowledge they were wrong or even if they were correct that we as a group decided to do something different than what canon says to make the story fit. I would do it if every one agreed to go by what I say but I do not believe every one would do that. Do you?

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