how big/strong would you have to be to use an M230 chaingun as a weapon?

Discussion in 'Space Battles' started by SGTschlock, Jun 3, 2012.

  1. Minohtar Advocatus Diaboli

    Yeah, or just use an automatic grenade launcher instead of an automatic cannon. Similar terminal performance (via HEAT instead of APHE, obviously), but much more manageable recoil and lower overall bulk and mass.
  2. CthulhuBeard Captain, Wookie, Elder

    cause i didn't say that earlier in the first place.

    yeah, yeah. well, the shorter barrel more accurate in your suggestion would i imagine mean a thicker shorter barrel. i did read up on this shit, to understand the different variables. thicker more acurate because less vibration, and because it will work as a better heat sink.

    you pair up the automatic grenade launcher with some radar / laser rangefinder computer backup and your mechanical mount and you will have a nice smart link system to drop those rounds where you want. of course, that is in full on, i don't care about giving away my position mode, and hope your system is not completely jammed by the enemies systems. but with electronic warfare, that is always an issue. short range radar to watch rounds as they go down field, and see how wind / ect effect them to make later shots more accurate, 'natch. also could pinpoint sniper / enemy fire.
  3. SGTschlock Hunger: Sated

    Probably still want to use high velocity grenade rounds since you're probably going to want to occasionally use it against mobile point targets.
  4. Minohtar Advocatus Diaboli

    No, the shorter barrel doesn't have to be thicker to be more accurate. Simply by virtue of being shorter it is stiffer and will wobble less.

    The radar is basically unnecessary; a laser rangefinder and a ballistics computer are all you really need for accurate first round on target at infantry fighting ranges.

    Yeah, you'd want to use the sort of rounds fired from AGLs, not those used in hand-carried weapons like the M203.
  5. SGTschlock Hunger: Sated

    Still kinda low velocity if you're using HEAT rounds and trying to get direct hits at mobile distance targets.
  6. Minohtar Advocatus Diaboli

    *shrugs* There's always going to be design compromises somewhere, I guess? Guided bullets or micromissiles are a possibility here too.
  7. CthulhuBeard Captain, Wookie, Elder

    yeah, the more i have read on it, the more it seems to be about getting the barrel to the just right sweet spot for the rounds you are firing. long enough to not lose too much MV, not too long to be more bulky than needed.

    hmm. to hit high mobility targets, could always say "screw the costs" and try to go with a guided munition. but then you are trading explosive potential for guidence systems and such, not to mention the ever mounting cost per round. if you need a HEAT round to take out the target, better not reduce it's payload.

    edit- heh, beat me to it.
  8. SGTschlock Hunger: Sated

    Laser guided rounds are certainly a possibility. I was kinda imagining a laser designator built into the shoulder/head that could be used to paint targets and guide rounds in on.


    Though it is possible to get higher velocity rounds than a grenade launcher but not quite be as over the top as a chaingun cannon.
  9. CthulhuBeard Captain, Wookie, Elder

    could go with a sort of two stage weapon. an easy charge to get it air-borne, then a rocket engine to take it to the speed you want at target. basically a full auto guided micro-missile weapon system. 'natch the target designation system would be hands free, from a helmet. though we are fast leaving much need of a "gun" behind here, and more to a back-pack launcher system.

    those higher velocity rounds sound like the HV 25mm rounds i mentioned earlier. which is meant for the new tri-pod mounted launcher, and the Barret sniper model.

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