Legend of Korra thread 2: Would you do it for a Bosco Snack?

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  1. shangrila ...

    So what you are saying is that Amon was defeated by deus ex machina because it took deus ex machina to move his defeating Mako from a room without a window to a room with. Or are you saying Korra airbent through his blood bending and that's the deus ex machina? Cause she didn't. Amon wasn't bloodbending her then because he thought her already debent. Or do you mean Korra gaining airbending at a crucial moment is the problem? Sure, maybe, but that's kind of weak.
    shangrila, Jun 27, 2012
    #2701

  2. Ben The Original Ben again

    Brotip: There is no such thing as heroic willpower overcoming the odds nowadays.

    Either the bad guys win or it's a Deus Ex Machina.

    And if they win, it's probably also a Deus Ex Machina.

    Cry more, move on.
    Ben, Jun 27, 2012
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  3. The B5 fan Your friendly zookeeper.

    IIRC Korra wasn't being blood bent at that point, mainly because Amon was too busy going 'what the fuck?' to do it.

    As for Mako, lets look at this. Amon was holding him still by holding all the water in his body in place. Mako was trying to move by stimulating his muscles to contract. Ordinarily the bloodbender has an overwhelming advantage since the muscles can't contract if 70% of it is being held stationary. HOWEVER We do know that bloodbending is difficult, requires concentration, and is rarely done on whole body - likely for ease of use. People being bloodbent can still talk. Logically the bloodbender chooses to focus on the torso for general placement of the victim and arms and legs for more fine control and to prevent attack. The head is usually left free, as are the vocal cords. IIRC we also see a fair bit of twitching as well. Now a waterbender of Amon's callibre should be able to hold the water completely stationary, but his victims still twitch. this is presumably the muscles attempting to move, and very slightly succeeding.

    In this case Mako only needed to unfold his fingers - a movement not much above the twitching we know he was capable of. Amon was distracted by his lieutenant so his control was not as fine as normal. And it's also likely he wasn't particularly bothered about keeping the fingers held perfectly still. An ordinary firebending strike would require a punching motion. An ordinary lightning strike requires a wide, circular motion to charge. The attack consistently requires the two fingertips being dragged through the air to generate the electricity. Mako was able to discharge the lightning simply by uncurling his fingers. the same requirement (fingers dragged in an arc) but on a much smaller scale [I'm assuming this as the alternative is it's getting close to psychic lightning bending, which there's no indication Mako is close to]. This also handily explains why Amon was able to brush off what is normally a killing blow - the strike was much much smaller than an ordinary lightning strike. Enough to knock you over and hurt, but not enough to actually injure.

    The fine control needed to scall lightning down so much was what impressed Amon (well that and being smart enough to think of it). It's the sort of move that I don't think we've seen anyone good enough to use before(except probably Azula), probably partly because it's so much lesspowerful. If you can use lightning you use it on a bigger scale than this.

    So: Amon was distracted (he had a lot on his mind at that point!), overconfident (he'd dealth with the serious threat as far as he knew), had no reason to believe Mako moving his fingers an inch was a threat (and even then still kept control, just less than the arms), and the movement itself was only a fraction more than what we've seen people force through before due to muscle strength and willpower. AND it doesn't do more than knock him over.

    If people still think that is a deus ex machina and not Mako being resourceful then I think you're watching the wrong show. Maybe try spongebob.
    The B5 fan, Jun 27, 2012
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  4. foamy Prodigal

    Point of order: Korra was being bloodbent when she booted Amon out the window. By that point Amon had been ragdolled and electrocuted to boot, though.
    foamy, Jun 28, 2012
    #2704

  5. Ramenth

    No they weren't. Korra and Mako both won by Amon screwing up. Mako was in a Lightning Bending position before Amon grabbed him, and Amon clearly had no idea what he was doing about Korra because she was equally in a position to Air Bend. It's not really a dig on Amon, though, there wasn't much he could do.

    Edit: Did Mako even need to uncurl his fingers? It looked to me like he just overloaded his lightning and shocked both of them.
    Ramenth, Jun 28, 2012
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  6. Imperator Pax Talon Master

    I think its a case of when 'I was a child I consider the world as a child does, but now I am a man and I have seen the world as it is' kind of thing
    Imperator Pax, Jun 28, 2012
    #2706

  7. Voodoo Shark Unregistered

    Surely you've realized by now?

    It doesn't matter who is doing the voting, it matters who is recording the votes.

    ...naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. They wouldn't pull that.
    Voodoo Shark, Jun 28, 2012
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  8. foamy Prodigal

    That's crazy talk. Year tops.
    foamy, Jun 28, 2012
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  9. Darth_Shinji


    Considering its still going to be a legend of korra season and not legend of _____ I dare say it might be a year maybe, if we get one.
    Darth_Shinji, Jun 28, 2012
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  10. shangrila ...

    Yeah, a Nick show with a 17 year old protagonist is already stretching it. 27 years old, it'll never happen.
    shangrila, Jun 28, 2012
    #2710

  11. yingyang590 AI god wannabe

    [IMG]
    Screenshot of the last episode showing all the previous avatars.
    yingyang590, Jun 28, 2012
    #2711

  12. ShadowPhoenix Dark Lord of Shadows

    Gets muddled up when it hits the fourth row.
    ShadowPhoenix, Jun 28, 2012
    #2712

  13. Brian Boru

    that's what I was going to say
    Brian Boru, Jun 28, 2012
    #2713

  14. Silveraith Argentum Phasma Phasmatis

    Mhmm, I see from right to left: water, water, air, fire, earth, air and fire.

    Beyond that row it's even worse: fire, air, water, water, air, fire, earth, fire, earth, water, fire, fire, fire, air, water, air fire, fire.

    I can't see the clothes beyond that to air in identification.
    Silveraith, Jun 28, 2012
    #2714

  15. Teen Spirit Clone Murderer

    What's with the fat avatar?
    Teen Spirit, Jun 28, 2012
    #2715

  16. Tylonius SB Nice Guy

    He was the worlds only Cakebender.
    Tylonius, Jun 28, 2012
    #2716

  17. yingyang590 AI god wannabe

    Where?
    yingyang590, Jun 28, 2012
    #2717

  18. Teen Spirit Clone Murderer

    Look at the Airbending avatar before Yangchen. The guy has at least three chins.
    Teen Spirit, Jun 28, 2012
    #2718

  19. foamy Prodigal


    Courtesy of Meelo, we know fart-bending is a valid airbending move. Think about it.
    foamy, Jun 28, 2012
    #2719

  20. Brian Boru

    [IMG]
    Brian Boru, Jun 28, 2012
    #2720
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  21. Darth_Shinji


    Avatar Diabeetus was the greatest Avatar to ever lived. :D
    Darth_Shinji, Jun 28, 2012
    #2721

  22. Imperator Pax Talon Master

    To be fair look at the avatars and remember that was how they looked when they died.
    Imperator Pax, Jun 28, 2012
    #2722

  23. ShadowPhoenix Dark Lord of Shadows

    Hey, don't dis the fat one, he will still whoop your ass.;)
    ShadowPhoenix, Jun 28, 2012
    #2723

  24. Kerrus Pope Owl

    I'm more interested in the dude wearing fire red water nation clothes at the far left.
    Kerrus, Jun 28, 2012
    #2724

  25. TheFourthman Stranger in a strangeland

    Is it just me or does the female airbender look like a Minbari?
    TheFourthman, Jun 28, 2012
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