Discussion in 'Non Sci-fi Debates' started by ReddyRedWolf, Jun 28, 2012.
So this guy just had the munchies? Wow.
it would mean that he committed the attack because he was mentally unstable, and not because he was forced to by drugs
Dammit, this will probably set back marijuana legalization decades.
I don't even have any desire to use marijuana, I just wish the jails would get emptier and the police go towards things that actually matter.
Mentally unstable people will do incredibly fucked up shit.
News at 11.
Inb4 people who watched reefer madness or who live in Japan show up.
It's a conspiracy! The US Government released falsified data to vilify the bearers of the Noble Weed. So they could keep from legalizing it. This is because they enjoy throwing good people in prison while the real criminals run free. They enjoy wasting hundreds of billions of dollars a year. They enjoy strengthening the Drug Cartels. For the Cartels are like the Tyranids. They only grow stronger as you combat them. Every dollar spent to crush the drug cartel only furthers their agenda. It leads to the birth of stronger, more potent drugs which are easier to smuggle yet far more deadly. It leads to the growth of organized crime and gang violence. It leads to the destruction of countless lives. And for what?
Pot is suspected to trigger latent schizophrenia in some cases, but I dunno that that would necessarily lead to cannibalistic face-chewing, exactly...
From what I've been gathering, the people most strongly against legalizing weed are actually the ones who currently sell it illegally. That being their bread and butter after all.
It's not exactly good business sense to promote the idea of the government taking over the business, selling better quality, better controlled and cheaper marijuana to the public.
Sure, it would cut down crime by definition which is a politically unviable selling point, it would be another source of revenue for the government and we know how government hates that concept, plus...wait, why is it illegal again?
And you folks laughed at Reefer Madness...
People I need your support! We need to join hands! So we can resist...horrible...weed...jokes and puns.
Yeah guys, don't fear the reefer.
The stronger the criminals, the stronger the police who are empowered by 'chicken little' republican voters. 'Chicken little' voters vote whomever promises the strongest police reactionary policies.
Looking like you're 'tough on crime' buys votes; too much of politics is about perceptions, not realities, sadly.
No no no, it's not about drugs or him being mentally unstable. There's only one explanation, he actually was a zombie!!!
The devil weed strikes again!
I should take a puff and see if I have the overwhelming urge to eat someone's face
So he wasn't high on the bath salt?
Toxicology results says no.
Despite jokes about my user name I hate the use of products for changing mental states, (I don't drink anymore, was never a heavy drinker, and only puffed twice on smokes - YUCK). However, I do support the legalization of ALL 'drugs' for laboratory research, and MOST for Pharmaceutical development for prescription and non-prescription use. I believe marijuana SHOULD be legal just as much as alcohol and tobacco.
Funny thing, even if the product is legal you can still be targeting dealers and traffickers who are the problem - tax evasion and unsafe merchandise.
Anyone who has done research into the ECONOMIC methods of stamping out unwanted drug use knows that Prohibition is the worst possible method.
As to the OP, damn I hope that the drug test is screwed up, because either the autopsy finds that there was serious brain disorder/illness or we have a real problem on our hands. "Zombie' jokes aside, people in the right chemical/adrenal states CAN shrug off mortal wounds for a short time.
This will probably set back drug reform efforts by decades at least though, which means Mexico's Narco-terrorists just get stronger.
So what method would you suggest to counter the historical rampant use of opium by addicts in China?
Blame the British - Offer them government opium to wean them off, then draft them for work on a government project. Its a Communist State after all.
Realistically, I'd be looking at why so many people are turning to drugs, is it chronic unemployment, is it massive poor mental health from the social environment? First, task is to make the production and selling of Opium unprofitable, then its to provide education on the ills of it to reduce new users and detox facilities to reduce the number of total users. Two generations down the line, the problem is back on the fringe at a stable level instead of a significant public health issue.
Of course thats a massive simplification, but a workable napkin draft that has been proposed in many of the non-prohibition reduction papers I've read.
I said historical, mostly I'm thinking of from 1750 to 1940(ish). In that time before the communists realy kicked stuff off and ended common use by prohibition that worked, I want to know your economic solution.
Because it's super addictive, and helps people relax and enjoy themself?
How? The UK will fight a war with you to keep up it's trade, and protect it's money making operation. And you can't beat the UK in a war for at least 200 years.
But lets pretend the UK isn't going to fight you on it, how do you make it unprofitable? Government farms to offer cut rate prices? Ok now what, if you reduce production and raise the price, the UK will start selling it again.
30% of the adult male population. That's going to be very costly.
How? You have made a huge leap of cause and effect.
It's about as useful as:
1: Steal underpants.
Thank you for correcting me Xort, obviously 6 am is not the best time for me to be posting.
On review, considering the history - I don't think the Chinese could have done much different to fix the problem without co-operation from the British.
Granted current drug issues in the world are under a different economic model than mercantilism now, and both countries have signed treaties against the export/import of commercial opium - to the best of my knowledge.
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