Discussion in 'The Index' started by The Dark Gods, May 21, 2012.
I have got to ask why.
On the Skaro thing, you could actually probably play it weird, where they show up after the Davrosian revolution but not TOO much after, from the Thal's perspective. The Kaleds, ancient enemies, are suddenly gone, replaced by pepperpots that make the old ones look nice. Suddenly, it isn't a matter of winning the war anymore, but surviving. Then, all of a sudden, a third faction enters, which promises salvation, just agree to change your form and you'll be protected from those nasty Daleks...
With plans to start Converting the Daleks once they get all the Thals of course, but the Thals don't know that, just that this might be their best chance to die horribly.
"Dip" is a collection of industrial solvents that completely melt all the materials used in traditional Cel animation. It melts the paint, the cel, the ink, and the film stock.
Magnets would harm the ponies due to MLP being Flash-Animated: Wiping out the "virtual computer" inherent to their existence.
... That's sheer brilliance.
In that case, to Isolate and Contain Equestria you'd need to fast track enough satellites capable of beaming microwaves down in a complete circle around the "barrier" with bunkers containing powerful Electro-magnets to allow "ambassadors" but prevent the barrier from expanding through.
Guardian Box. Feed your idea to our resident EarthScorpion. Possibly Academia Nut. Only they could make it... ah...
I'm sure they have better things to write than MLP fiction of all things.
TCB basically is Shadow over Innsmouth. SoI even ends with the protagonist having accepted his inevitable transformation into a hybrid half-fish thing and looking forward to it.
Though arguably, SoI is less scary than TCB because it is “only” body horror, there is nothing in the story implying that the protagonist would lose his mind to the transformation.
And the most prolific TCB author has effectively SAID it's Lovecraft in Pastel. In one of her fits of crazy, anyway.
I thought the whole implication of Deep One hybrids was that they'd eventually be driven to wade out into the sea and join Deep One society?
Yes, but IIRC it's never explained what exactly convinces them to hit the beach — for all we know it's because their now–amphibian skin itches like crazy when it dries out. Or perhaps it's the definite chance of humans breaking out the torches and pitchforks, the hybrid form is not exactly subtle after all.
You know, I thought about a good rebuttal Canon-Equestria could give TCB-Equestria.
"When you say all humans should be removed from Equestria, does that include the ones that fought to protect it, died doing so, and are now buried in it?"
Confused. Require explanation.
In some TCB stories people kill the new ponies as they head towards Equestria. Others defend them. Equestria is expanding. Graves don't move. Do the math.
It is also echoes a message relayed from US President LBJ via the SecState to Charles de Gaulle when France pulled out of NATO in the mid 60s and he ordered US troops off French soil. Johnson asked "Would President de Gaulle clarify, does his order also include American soldiers buried in French cemeteries?"
I was thinking more along the lines of a Widening The Lens AU, where members of the TCB-Equestria try to convince WTL-Equestria to remove the filthy humans from WTL-Equestria's soil to make the 'pure.'
I dedicate the following speech to Quaar-jet, the god of pain and enslavement.
Guess who's talking?
===================="Daleks, you are monsters without match. You rend your world apart with war and strip mining, and claim title of master race when this is clearly false. You believe yourselves superior to all others to the point of wishing their destruction. If you continue on this dark path of disharmony, it will all end in tears.""However, there is a wa-""SI-LENCE IN-FE-RIOR BE-ING! NOT A SIN-GLE DA-LEK WILL FA-LL TO YOU, AS THE WEAK-MIN-DED THALS DID! AND THO-SE WHO DO WERE NE-VER DA-LEKS IN THE FIRST PLA-CE!""You refuse your redemption?""WE RE-FUSE E-VE-RY-THING!""Then you will all be destroyed!""AS IF O-NE OF YOUR E-QUINES WE-RE A MA-TCH FOR MY DA-LEKS! IT IS YOU WHO WILL BE EX-TER-MI-NA-TED!""I am a Goddess! I command the Sun!""YOU COM-MAND NO-THING! NOT WHEN THE-RE IS A SIN-GLE DA-LEK LEFT TO OP-POSE YOU! IF YOUR PO-NIES TAKE A SIN-GLE STEP ON DA-LEK CON-TROL-LED LAND, THEY WILL AN-HI-LA-TED! I WILL PER-SO-NAL-LY MAKE SU-RE THAT E-VE-RY SIN-GLE CEL YOU TA-KE COSTS YOU A MIL-LION CORP-SES! IF YOU WA-GE WAR ON THE DA-LEKS, YOU WILL WIN NO-THING BUT DU-ST AND ASH-ES, YOU WILL FE-EL NO-THING BUT DES-PAIR, LOSS AND FE-AR, AND YOU WILL GA-IN NO-THING BUT EMP-TY VIC-TO-RIES AND A LA-ND FIL-LED WI-TH YOUR EX-TER-MI-NA-TED SUB-JECTS!""Please, we don't even have to fight you! The barrier will take care of you all!""IN-COR-RECT! E-VEN NOW, THE EN-TI-RE DA-LEK RA-CE WO-RKS TO-WARDS ITS SUR-VI-VAL! AND WE WILL SUC-CE-ED, WHE-RE-VER THRO-UGH ES-CAPE TO THE STA-RS, OR THRO-UGH YOUR DES-TRUC-TION!""Your subjects will flee from your tyrrany and beg to be let into Equestria!""WHY WO-ULD THEY? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I DO TO KE-EP MY PEO-PLE LOY-AL?""Fear? Opression? Violence?""NO-THING!""...What!?""DA-LEKS FOL-LOW ME BE-CAUSE THEY CHO-SE ME TO LE-AD THEM! I DO NOT RU-LE THRO-UGH FE-AR, THRO-UGH OP-PRES-SION OR THRO-UGH AR-TI-FI-CIAL CON-TROLL! I RU-LE BE-CAUSE I AM WOR-THY OF RU-LING, AND NOT A SIN-GLE DA-LEK IN THE EM-PI-RE E-VER THO-UGHT O-THER-WISE! I RU-LE BE-CAUSE MY PE-O-PLE CHO-SE ME, AND NO ONE EL-SE, TO LE-AD THEM AS EM-PE-ROR! THIS IS A LO-YAL-TY YOU CAN-NOT COM-PRE-HEND!"(On the other end, Rainbow Dash perks up.)"SO, WHE-N I SAY THAT THE DA-LEK EM-PI-RE WILL NOT SUR-REN-DER, IT IS BE-CA-USE E-VE-RY SIN-GLE DA-LEK HAS SWO-RN TO FI-GHT TO THE-IR VE-RY END! WE WILL NOT FALL AND WE WILL NOT LO-SE! WE WILL FI-GHT ON THE GRO-UND, IN THE SKI-ES, IN THE CA-VES OF THE WA-STES, O-VER THE RA-DIO-AC-TIVE PLA-INS, IN THE CI-TIES AND BUN-KERS! WHE-N WE RUN OUT OF RO-OM, WE WILL AS-CEND TO THE STA-RS AND MA-KE MO-RE! WE CAN-NOT BE STOP-PED AS WE ARE BE-YOND STOP-PING! WE CAN-NOT BE NE-GO-TI-A-TED WI-TH AS YOU ARE UN-WOR-THY OF A-NY-THING BUT EX-TER-MI-NA-TION! WE WILL THRO-W OUR-SELVES INTO THE FI-RE IF IT ME-ANS STOP-PING YOU! WE WILL DE-MO-LISH MOUN-TAINS IF IT AS-SURES YOUR DE-VAS-TA-TION! WE WILL POI-SON OUR EN-TI-RE WO-RLD IF THE-RE IS THE SLIGHT-EST GUA-RAN-TEE THAT IT WILL POI-SON A SIN-GLE PO-NY! WE WILL DES-TROY OUR WO-RLD IF IT ME-ANS YOUR LOSS! WE WILL RE-ND THE U-NI-VERSE A-PART WI-TH OUR OWN AP-PEN-DA-GES IF YOU ARE EX-TER-MI-NA-TED WITH IT!!""END CON-VER-SA-TION!!"====================Because the Dalek Emperor is awesome, and we need more fics with the guy in them.
And then Doctor will pat her on head and go away.
Nice Speech Dalek IX.
You know you are unredeemably EVIL when the DA-LEK EM-PE-ROR gives you a "Shut up Hannibal" Speech and swears you will be stopped EX-TER-MI-NA-TED!
*salutes the Dalek Emperor* Where do I sign, Sir?
Dalek Ix, why are you such a good speechwriter?
Yeah, it's a crappy summary, if there's anything that's not clear feel free to ask for an explanation.
800 Year Promise
The two main characters are Wildfire, a former human earth pony, and his wife Perspicacity, a native unicorn telescope maker.
Wildfire discovers in the basement of the telescope shop a book written in English. (This is surprising, since it is implied that all human cultural artifacts were destroyed by the barrier, despite another story stating that film and vinyl records were preserved.)
As Wildfire begins the effort of translating the text, he discovers it is actually written in Middle English, and describes the first contact between Earth and Equestria, 800 years ago - from the point of view of a human of the time, who was brought to Equestria and turned into a pony. (This was not by the same means as the potion, and left his mind more or less intact)
They find that there are pages missing from the end. As they travel in search of them, they meet a pony named Ralph Vitoni (we eventually find out that he is a HLF agent that kept his human mind. More on that later.)
They eventually figure out that the book was written on dragon skin, in fact, skin taken from unborn dragons, the eggs having been stolen in a raid by diamond dogs (a fact which, if it got out, they figure would mean war between dragons and ponies). Unfortunately, they come to this conclusion while the dragon ambassador (the brother, in all likelihood, of the dragons whose skin was used for the book), Sharptooth Leatherback, is in a position to overhear. He is more reasonable than most dragons, and decides to wait until he finds out if Celestia knew before taking action. Meanwhile, Ralph leaves a letter on his doorstep strongly implying that she did know, and that Wildfire and Perspicacity are actually her agents and cannot be trusted to translate the manuscript. His goal is clearly to start a war between ponies and dragons that will eventually devastate all life in the world - as revenge for what she did to Earth.
After Ralph forces them to get the manuscript out of Sharptooth's horde, he is defeated by Sharptooth's (adopted pony) son. He asks to be able to speak to Wildfire and Perspicacity for his last words (this is allowed as a matter of honor because this is a dragon cultural tradition to allow last requests of those they defeat in battle)
We learn the points that I mentioned in the other thread: that the Dragons, Griffons, and Diamond Dogs were also from other dimensions, but didn't need to be transformed to pass the barrier. That Celestia's motivation is likely tied to the psychological effects of dealing with all of the problems Discords caused (and just coming off of that, she encountered medieval humanity).
Sharptooth decides not to go to war over the fact that she didn't deliver William (the human-turned-pony who wrote the manuscript) to be punished by the dragons - he concedes that with tensions as high as they were at the time, this would only have prompted a war that would have destroyed both species - and for what it's worth, she didn't find out about the nature of the journal until he presented it to her after he finished writing it.
Ah, so this is the story that officially assimilated The Ambassador's Son into Chatty's headcanon...
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