Popular Weapon Designs.

Discussion in 'SciFi Technical Discussions' started by Forgetful, Oct 8, 2011.

  1. Forgetful Nuka Chemist

    Okay. Is it at all practical for any sci-fi to use a lever action shotgun over a pump-action?

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    This thread is not limited to just shotguns.
  2. Fell Good Ol' Boy

    That shotgun isn't lever action, it just has a weird grip/trigger guard.


    And no, it's not practical. But it's damn cool.


    The scale of firearm coolness goes in this order, from most to least cool.


    Lever action>Bolt Action>Breech Loading>Pump Action>Semi Auto>Muzzle Loading.
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  3. Ford Prefect What is Project Zohar?

    Yes it is.
  4. Lever-actions are slightly slower than pump actions and more difficult to use prone. They are usable in a tactical weapon but you would never design it from scratch.
  5. Mad Luddite Gonna Wreck It

    I resent that. Anyone who can charge their piece with poudre and shot with a steel ramrod in the heat of battle is most certainly more awesome than someone with a semi-automatic shotgun, however more certainly dead he may end up.
  6. Fell Good Ol' Boy

    Yeah, but when you reload it looks like you're jacking off the ramrod.
  7. Forgetful Nuka Chemist

    Speaking of which, Terminator 2 has all sorts of Shot-gun loving porn.
  8. Fell Good Ol' Boy

    Outlaw Star actually had a sawn off double-barrel breech loader on what looked like a goddamn 1911 grip.
  9. WhenTheyKnewMy the happy crazy man

    I love that show.

    I suppose they were trying to go for a retro feel for the weapon.:p
  10. Fell Good Ol' Boy

    It actually looks more like a "Space Gun" than you'd expect, just like the cylindrical handguns Gene uses all the time. Lots of chrome and blued steel all around.
  11. Forgetful Nuka Chemist

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  12. TWPC920 White Devil

    The Combat Shotgun is actually slightly more viable for a semi-auto shotgun as it has an actual stock for you to stabilize the gun when firing rapidly. Ever try to fire a machine pistol on full auto without a stock? Its kinda like what happens with the Riot Shotgun in real life. Otherwise, for all intents and purposes, the two guns are pretty similar, drum magazine semi-automatic shotguns. Though, I do have to admit, having the magazine in front of the handguard is pretty strange, and would probably affect the gun balance somewhat.
  13. Zor More of a Zor than You

    Ammo capacity is kinda limited on the combat shotgun, only 12 shells.

    Zor
  14. Fell Good Ol' Boy

    Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what the point of the magazine being way out in the middle of the gun is for.

    Of all the fallout shotguns though, I prefer the Sturdy Caravan Shotgun the most.


    That sweeeeet under-over.
  15. Forgetful Nuka Chemist

    Well, having it closer to the front, could help with recoil. Besides as a shotgun you're not required to engage faroff targets.

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  16. TWPC920 White Devil

    Both shotguns have the same ammo capacity for their drums, 12 shells.

    Yes, which is why I said the Combat Shotgun is the more viable and practical weapon.
  17. A long arm, let alone a high-capacity one, without a shoulder stock of any kind is just plain stupid. Again, no reason to actually design something that way. Give it a folding stock like most actual tactical shotguns have.

    There are a bunch of reasons not to use something like that. Not the least of which is firing something - shotgun shell or heavy pistol/rifle round - that's meant for a several-pound weapon out of a tiny one will very likely hurt you.
  18. Mad Luddite Gonna Wreck It

    When you reload a pump-action shotgun, you're jacking off the barrel. And it's not like the ramrod is the phallic object.
  19. Fell Good Ol' Boy

    No, because you only pump a shotgun once.

    You repeatedly jam the ramrod into the barrel so it looks like rapid-fire fapping.
  20. Mad Luddite Gonna Wreck It

    It's more like getting a sample of urethral bacteria, but I guess you're right.
  21. What is wrong with the top pistol considering it's not a shotgun pistol and the .50 ammunition it uses is designed for pistols?

    As for the bottom one, it's a revolver that fires 5.56mm ammunition.
  22. The Reaper Don't fear The Reaper

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    EDIT: I know see that the thread is about shotguns?

    Well then...

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  23. Forgetful Nuka Chemist

    The Bolter: Beautifully rendered.

    The shotgun.

    What? I see a X.
  24. The Reaper Don't fear The Reaper

    Ugh, I'll fix it.
  25. Ignoring that it doesn't look right for that (how in the world does it feed? :wtf:), there are several of those in the real world. None of which are actually practical combat weapons.

    That's even sillier. 5.56 would be an absolutely horrible pistol cartridge. Its performance in M-4 carbine barrels has been poor enough to cause serious military bitching. You chop that down by another 75%...

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