I am leaving but I wanted to say a few things before then through even if I am not... set to continue at this point I don't see a reason to ruin the roleplay for those still interested with a massive ooc argument in the middle of the ic so here a new thread. Okay this then was the plan of my forces, and the reasoning. Jumping from hotspot to hotspot from a Moonbase on high would achieve nothing, the people doing so where simply responding to the concerns of the superpowers of the world and following the Media. It was doomed to failure as they rushed to the latest big cause and ignored the decade long wars that get far less TV time and have a much higher cost. Was my guy nice in what he did, no did he bring change no, trying to play from up high he felt was a waste of time, so he went for resources gathering it from the people of Earth that he would eventually seek to destroy. Then rather than play nice and try and get a corrupt system on side he would... create his own world order, change it through war and conquest and ruling over territory and the like directly. Hence why he was creating a Garrison force and other such forces to move in after his men, when winter came this would start by attacking Siberia, during the dead of winter and literally forging his own empire, to slowly swallow up the world under one flag and one rule, creating his own utopia through the blood of the old ways, remaking the world. That was the plan, so yes the calling of my forces and my own characters actions and emtions based on a 'High ideals of the imperium' argument was quite frnkly annoying, especially when it was told they had a plan and then again that this was a temporary measure. That it hadn't been shared with outsiders is not a surprise and was why I had not revealed it but frankly meh the thread got boring when the costs of the Imperium where handwaved away so that we could have baby making Marines and only adults changed.
Your posts were quite vague and made to appear that you purely intent on getting resources for yourself. And you withheld information which made the GM had to deduce your intent and make judgment calls with with vague information. If you don't tell your Marines your plans, then they won't understand why they're being mercenaries.
I'm of a slightly similar opinion, it dissolved a bit too fast, and I partially disagree with Star's ruling but at the same time its not impossible for marines to turn against their primarch any who List of OOB: Silver Storms legion 30 Techmarines 30 'normal Marines' (Exact breakdown below) 1 Captain 10 Tactical Marines (divided into 2 squads of 4, with 2 Sergeants) 9 Assault Marines (divided into 2 squads of 4, with 1 Sergeant) 10 Devestator Marines (divided into 2 squads of 4, with 2 Sergeants)15 Apothecaries 15 Librarian Corp 10 Personal Guard Marines aka Terminators and artificer armored troop leaders (Exact breakdown below) Legion Chief Librarian (Terminator Armor) Legion Master of Sanctity* (Artificer Armor) Legion Reclusiarch * (Artificer Armor) Legion Head Apothecary (Artificer Armor) Legion Master of the Forge (Terminator Armor) Praetor (Chapter Master equivalent i.e. immediately below me on the totem pole) (Terminator Armor) Honor Guard (Terminator Armor) Honor Guard (Terminator Armor) Honor Guard (Terminator Armor) Honor Guard (Terminator Armor)Gurkha Marines5 Honour Guards (1 Squad) 20 Techmarines(4 Squads) 10 Terminators (2 Squads) 10 Scout Marines (2 Squads) 10 Heavy Weapons Squads (2 Squads) 40 Standard Marine (8 Squads) 5 Librarians(1 Squad)Angels of Liberation 10 Honor Guard 15 Techmarines 15 Librarians 10 Apothecaries 30 Tactical marines 10 Devastator Marines 10 Assault MarinesIce Souled (Disbanded)* 20 Techmarines 3 Squads of Battle Brothers ((IE twenty four Battle Brothers 3 Veteran, and 3 sergeants)) 10 Terminators split into the traditional roles one squad of five close combat and one squad of 5 ranged support. 20 Apothecaries 10 Librarians 10 Pilots/vechicle users.Thunderbolt's Legion 1 Chaplain (my 2nd in command) 1 Librarian 2 Apothecaries 15 Techmarines (who will immediately start helping with the rennovations) 16 Marines trained as vehical crews (until we have some, they'll help around the moonbase) 5 Terminators (1 armed with an assault cannon) 5 Devastators 5 Assault Marines with jump packs 5 Veteran Sargeants 45 standard MarinesKoJ 10 Techmarines 10 Devastators 10 Assualt Marines 10 Honour Guard 55 Tactical Marines 3 Apothecaries 1 Chaplain 1 Company ChampionMarines Indifferns 2x Terminator Squads (20 Marines including 2 Sergeants) 20 Apothecary 10 Librarians 20 Techmarines 5 Chaplains 25 tactical Marines (including five sergeants)Knights of the Abyss 25 Techmarines 5 Librarians 5 Chaplains 3x Sergeants Tactical Squads (33 Marines including 3 Sergeants) 2x Sergeants Assault Squads (22 Marines including 2 Sergeants) 1x Devastator squad (10 Marines including 1 Sergeant)Imperial Paladins 30 Techmarines 5 Chaplains 20 Devestator marines (With 5 Sergeants) 10 Apothecary 5 Librarians 20 Assault Marines (with 2 Sergeants) 10 tactical Marines (with Sergeant)Dark Slayers 40x Assault Marines (with 4 Sergeants) 10 Librarians 15 Techmarines 5 Apothecary 20x Tactical Marines (with 2 Sergeants) 10x Devastator Marines (with 1 Sergeant)
In fairness to Skelron, I also agree with you that doubt set into his Marines rather quickly which I noted. I think they would of been more confused rather then frustrated. On the other hand...Skelron's Marines were fighting children soldiers so he could get child soldiers his own... And I don't see any actions of Skelron of actuality ending/resolving those conflicts, merely profiting off of them.
To be fair a lot of marines were child soldiers, in fact a great number of them are by our standards, take especially the Great Crusade era Dark Angels, and the modern Space Wolves in particular
Point. Some chapters even have brutal gladiator worlds for their recruits. Aren't modern Space Wolves recruits older then most of their counterparts? Salamanders are likely the only ones who are older(who keep their wives I believe). Though, that is why I asked about the age of recruits. If it would be possible that somewhat older people are possible since most of the world heavily frowns on 17- soldiers(which make recruiting for us difficult).
I think the youngest Space Wolves recruits are 12 and 13, but the average is 15-17 with 18-20 not unheard of I thin Ragnar was 16 or 17 when he was recruited
Isn't an average of 15-17 actually kinda late? Lexicanum notes that the average recruits becomes a brother at age 16-18 years which suggest they recruit even younger children on average. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Creation_of_a_Space_Marine
Compared to the others yeah, but the space wolves, Salamanders, and the Blood Angels are noted for recruiting later than (I don't know about the Dark Angels) others.
The other thing to note is for instance with the Space Wolves the people they pick, have already come to the choosers of the slains attention before they recruit them. That is they take people in the midst of puberty who have already distinquished themselves in battle. Thats fairly young to start. Yes things where not spelt out in the thread, nor should they have to be. Space Marines are meant to be made during the period of puberty when the body is already undergoing changes, the process steals onto that period. It was what originally led me to go after the child soldier approach and felt it was already set when the OP swopped to 'Well 18 is made the new point' *sigh shrugging* meh nevermind tis over.
Starting Space marine Legions Order of battles As a note this is just the Initial loadout of players, and I'll update if anyone new joins Silver Storms legion 30 Techmarines 30 'normal Marines' (Exact breakdown below) 1 Captain 10 Tactical Marines (divided into 2 squads of 4, with 2 Sergeants) 9 Assault Marines (divided into 2 squads of 4, with 1 Sergeant) 10 Devestator Marines (divided into 2 squads of 4, with 2 Sergeants)15 Apothecaries 15 Librarian Corp 10 Personal Guard Marines aka Terminators and artificer armored troop leaders (Exact breakdown below) Legion Chief Librarian (Terminator Armor) Legion Master of Sanctity* (Artificer Armor) Legion Reclusiarch * (Artificer Armor) Legion Head Apothecary (Artificer Armor) Legion Master of the Forge (Terminator Armor) Praetor (Chapter Master equivalent i.e. immediately below me on the totem pole) (Terminator Armor) Honor Guard (Terminator Armor) Honor Guard (Terminator Armor) Honor Guard (Terminator Armor) Honor Guard (Terminator Armor)Gurkha Marines5 Honour Guards (1 Squad) 20 Techmarines(4 Squads) 10 Terminators (2 Squads) 10 Scout Marines (2 Squads) 10 Heavy Weapons Squads (2 Squads) 40 Standard Marine (8 Squads) 5 Librarians(1 Squad)Angels of Liberation 10 Honor Guard 15 Techmarines 15 Librarians 10 Apothecaries 30 Tactical marines 10 Devastator Marines 10 Assault MarinesIce Souled (Disbanded)* 20 Techmarines 3 Squads of Battle Brothers ((IE twenty four Battle Brothers 3 Veteran, and 3 sergeants)) 10 Terminators split into the traditional roles one squad of five close combat and one squad of 5 ranged support. 20 Apothecaries 10 Librarians 10 Pilots/vechicle users.Thunderbolt's Legion 1 Chaplain (my 2nd in command) 1 Librarian 2 Apothecaries 15 Techmarines (who will immediately start helping with the rennovations) 16 Marines trained as vehical crews (until we have some, they'll help around the moonbase) 5 Terminators (1 armed with an assault cannon) 5 Devastators 5 Assault Marines with jump packs 5 Veteran Sargeants 45 standard MarinesKoJ 10 Techmarines 10 Devastators 10 Assualt Marines 10 Honour Guard 55 Tactical Marines 3 Apothecaries 1 Chaplain 1 Company ChampionMarines Indifferns 2x Terminator Squads (20 Marines including 2 Sergeants) 20 Apothecary 10 Librarians 20 Techmarines 5 Chaplains 25 tactical Marines (including five sergeants)Knights of the Abyss 25 Techmarines 5 Librarians 5 Chaplains 3x Sergeants Tactical Squads (33 Marines including 3 Sergeants) 2x Sergeants Assault Squads (22 Marines including 2 Sergeants) 1x Devastator squad (10 Marines including 1 Sergeant)Imperial Paladins 30 Techmarines 5 Chaplains 20 Devestator marines (With 5 Sergeants) 10 Apothecary 5 Librarians 20 Assault Marines (with 2 Sergeants) 10 tactical Marines (with Sergeant)Dark Slayers 40x Assault Marines (with 4 Sergeants) 10 Librarians 15 Techmarines 5 Apothecary 20x Tactical Marines (with 2 Sergeants) 10x Devastator Marines (with 1 Sergeant)*Minor edits to use 40k titles
