Discussion in 'Vs. Debates' started by creyzi4j, Jun 15, 2012.
By feats: Goku easily
By supposed power: Celestia may just have enough power to take a Super Saiyan down.
Fanon: Celestia curbstomps
Superman was a necromancer, who knew.
What? What does Superman have to do with this?
End of Series Goku can take down even Fanon Celestia. Dragonball is kinda redic.
I dont know how powerful Goku was at the series. But still i know he was weak to magic (like Superman) but was as fast. Also Gokus kind of an idiot so Celestia could probably trick him into doing what she wants and then beat him up. Especially if its Molestia... god.
When Goku turned into a ssj3, the very transformation was shaking the entire planet, and the sheer power of it was felt across heaven and hell.
That alone puts him above Celestia. But, she moves the moon and the sun every single day for the last thousand years with the amount of effort it takes me to drink a cup of coffee.
That alone, (if this involves telekinetic) would just about rip apart Thor and the Hulk into atoms. Oh sure, Thor is magical and Hulk is the Hulk, but if they can bleed from sufficient force, they're as dead as my date.
Saying Goku is an idiot is like saying Superman lacks common sense. You don't know much about Goku if that's you're sufficient answer.
Bull, Gokus power wasnt "shaking the earth and could be felt in hell and heaven" thats speculation talking. Its pretty obvious the only things that were being affected were nearby cities seeing how Trunks was a couple of miles away and wasnt experiencing a earthquake, he just saw clouds move. And the only reason it was felt through King Kai was because he was broadcasting it through his body. I saw that fight it wasnt all that impressive in terms of DragonBall Z. Besides Heaven and Hell arent even that distant of places in DBZ seeing how they can be achieved by normal flight and teleportation. It isnt like DC or Marvel where reaching heaven or hell, besides dying, takes power in Universal Terms.
Again if we are going by fanon then yes shes pretty powerful, and could take Goku being that. Besides wasnt Goku bothered by temperatures of 122 degrees farenheit? A suns gonna hurt.
Thor always holds back when fighting Hulk. Thats why he sometimes loses.
The reason Superman lacks common sense it because often he decides not to allow himself to go to far. Really Superman is a genius in his own right and can think of a way around situations, Watch Superman vs The Elite and tell me Superman lacks common sense. While Goku is an expert at fighting, he can be tricked and stunned by foes who decieve him and allow themselves to power up. Goku isnt one for strategy and just enjoys fighting for the heck of it (still love the guy) even allowing himself to lose power just to make it easy for the opponent to fight (like apparentely being able to beat Kid Buu in SSJ3 form, but deciding against it because he wanted to give Vegeta a chance to fight.) Dafuq? Know there have been times that he thinks Strategically and thinks around situations, but its mostly on the fly stuff and just implies either stalling the enemy to get more power or running away until hes shot down. Name one time where Goke defeated a villian that didnt imply these tactics, and were he didnt just blow the villain up with a Ki blast, Spirit bomb, or screaming for 4 minutes "KAMEHAMEHA".
By normal flight and teleportation? First of all, there wasn't an instance where someone could go to hell or heaven by flying. I don't even know where you got that from. Secondly, Goku's teleportation is literally no limit hax, and far surpasses anything DC or Marvel can cook up when it comes to actual teleportation. Apparently, anyone can learn, but it's a pretty secretive technique. But, show me one instance within Marvel or DC characters, who aren't high end, that can teleport from one end to another within anywhere within the universe?
Also, the very fact that you're trying to refute my claims through Trunks with the few clouds moving (really? A few? try all of it) and that only a few cities were shaking (rofl, Trunks was literally in the air, so how could he feel the earth? He certainly wasn't standing on it) is hilarious.
And furthermore, the transformation was literally shaking the Lookout tower, which is literally hundreds of miles away.
If Goku was "shaking the earth" then the PLANET EARTH shouldve been shaking, not just the ground. When World Breaker Hulk was getting pissed off and shaked the Earth even people on airborne PLANES were affected by it.
Didnt seem like it was that far away, if im looking a geography of the planet well. Besides i always thought that the DBZ Planet Earth was smaller than our planet Earth.
Didnt Mystic Gohan literally fly from the Kais planet to Earth (which i doubt Mystic Gohan can move Mega faster than light despite what Fan Wankers say) without much trouble, again he couldve just teleport, which i doubt. Unless the Kais helped him Teleport than ill give you that.
Gokus teleportation isnt all that impressive, hes never been shown to teleport to different universes and even then he has to concentrate where to go. The Kais were the ones that had the impressive Teleportation and it didnt to them that well. Besides Ambush Bug could Teleport from DC to the Real World, and hes not a high tier character by ANY means.
??There's only one universe, with like four galaxies. Secondly, what the hell do you think the Kami's tower is? It is literally on air above Korin's Tower, and isn't attached to anything. There were several ancient Kais there that could have easily teleported Gohan.
Then im again gonna guess that the Planets in DBZ arent that big. So Kami's Tower probably isnt THAT far away, Far up yes, but no Far away.
Besides im talking about other Dimension like Heaven and Hell.... i think you being the DBZ fan here you should know that.
Again whats with the LOL? I didnt say anything THAT funny.
Oh boy, we're resorting to the moon that is made of cheese and is actually the size of my car. Good argument there buddy. Shit like this don't fly. If you actually resorting to shit like this in a debate, then you have no business being here if all you're going to do is make retarded claims that are theories at best. And even theories have actual basis.
You're a superman fan, so I called you superman, and you're also doing thread necromancy.
Hulk has punched out PHYSICS before, doubt Celestia could do jack shit to survive that.
Thor has also almost killed Galactus, who is quite above Celestia, also fast enough to close any distance between the two before Celestia can even react to a spell.
Once again these guys have got into fights of beings of equal caliber (Thor more then Hulk) and take like the ones they dish out, they're fucking durable, and Celestia, unlike Hulk or Thor has shown no impressive durability, I don't even need high end Hulk and Thor to win against Celestia.
Also the fuck are you bringing up those two in a SSj3 Goku vs Celestia thread? Marvel has nothing to do with this.
Thor punched out Galactus because he had a leg up on something, which he usually does. Otherwise say bye bye to Thor. Hulk punched physics? So what? Half the known comic characters tend to punch out physics like it's candy being given away. I brought it up because he brought up superman.
And punching ain't gonna do shit against Celestia ripping apart his brain to subatomic particles.
WHOA dude calm down, i understand that DBZ must be your Bible or something and maybe insulted your lord and savior Akira Toriyama, no need to take it to the extreme. ALL i said is that Kami tower doesnt seem like its THAT far away, it proabaly is at least a Hundred miles away if you count it being up and shouldve rephrased it that Trunks was at least 200 Miles away from looks of things. Not need to get your panties in a bunch dude.
Well i felt sorry for the guy because he stated in another video that noone was paying attention to his posts so i decided just to post to make him feel better.
Wow, i tried to ignore the fanboy insults, but clearly you're still a noob. I mean, seriously? fanboy insults? Are you fucking with me? If you're going to insult someone, be a little bit more subtle. Resorting to shit like this makes you more of a 12 year old noob.
And saying shit like, oh, it's not THAT far away, the planet is only maybe like a couple of hundred miles and it's actually flat. Come on dude...if you're going to give answers like that, at least TRY and come off as less of a dumbass.
Thor is super sonic, on a low end, high end he's FTL, he can literally beat Celestia to a pulp before she can do anything, since the highest durability feat for a pony was a anvil to a head, and it wasn't even Celestia, Thor would turn Celestia into a bloody pulp with a single strike of his hammer, Hulk can thunder clap to dissorintate Celestia, then a good old SMASH until she's dead.
And to top it off, Celestia doesn't even fight with TK, she uses a laser esque attack, one that has no feat what so ever.
I'm sure she's going to let Hulk thunder clap her............................................................
I will agree with you on something, When Thor beat up Galactus he was depowered and it was competely PIS. Thor and Hulk could probably kick Celestias butt (i dont like to curse) if she wasnt Fanon or was taken into Context. I only brought up Superman because of the Magic weakness thing. Didnt mean to actually bring it up in a argument. And no most comic book characters cant punch Physics, not at least like tearing the walls of reality like Hulk did with Onslaught.
Because a clap looks threatening?
Because Celestia is known for using combat telekinesis, and not using her laser in the only fight scene she was ever in?
Face it, the only way to get calcs from Celestia is to assume she uses pure Telekinesis, a form of magic she didn't even use as a attack in the fight we see her in.
I only resorted to that because you were like "you dare make a suggestion or make a small theory about something that didnt even matter, F*CK YOU" So what goes around comes around pal. Also "whos the bigger n00b", who cares Im just having fun for the sake of fun arguments, you're the one that took it out of context and making crap up just to make me look like and idiot.
Also i never said that the world was flat, you are literally making shit up. I JUST SAID that Kamis lookout didnt look that far away from the area in which Goku just powered up. I never insulted you personally, if you cant take a joke then fine. Im sorry i called you a DBZ fanboy, it was uncalled for and i apologize.
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