It should also be noted that LEGION and the Marked of Kane are not public knowledge, possibly even within Nod. So in all likelihood, the only Nod AI the Citadel is likely aware of is CABAL and he's been dead for almost a century and a half
*resists to headdesk* Admiral Shogo is here . SB.com just became doomed. *facepalms* Sorry that I didn't recognized you but I try to be rather cautious at calling out at unknown profiles and think that when they have a simmilar nick to a nick on another site means they are the same. As to which side I like in C&C? GDI. I love super-heavy firepower and do not know the meaning of the words "tank spam". Maybe you should check out a fan-made game called "Renegade X". It is an attempt to make a better Renegade FPS ... which they suceeded at rather well *in BROB/RP terms it is a 100+ point Critical Success made out of pure WIN! Simply an X-factor in the making *.
Earth is the Scrin Pandora. Heh. Hell, they're a little further along, they've at least started terraforming. And sure, they don't have the problem of the locals being twice your height, but I'd say a combined arms approach to warfare to be a mite bit more dangerous than bows and arrows, even if they are dipped in a neurotoxin. So how would Scrin-Quaritch be described? Shock Trooper, scars from rail cannons on his body? Maybe a couple bullets still embedded in his carapace, which he refuses to remove? On the same vein, I kind of like the idea of a Scrin version of Havoc, from the First Contact War. Not over the top and Crazy Awesome necessarily, but the same kind of relationship with Kane and other leaders. Thinking when Havoc leaves the note for Kane. Similar to some of the Tyranid Special Characters, in their first incarnation, like Old One Eye, who was originally just a single Carnifex that happened to be nigh-unkillable, and was then copied by the Tyranids. An enemy that you can identify as the best among their forces, and see on the battlefield. Where Kane or Sheppard can walk onto a deserted battlefield and go "This is his handiwork."
Actually those are absolutelly frigin brilliant ideas! Especialy that Quatrich expy one. Maybe the Scrin Commander from TW3 is him.
And for the extra Avatar reference, imply the Scrin cloning humans to infiltrate human society with one eventually switching sides and lead the humans against his own kin under the disguise of a holy figure...........holy shit, Kane is a Scrin Jake Sully!
Yeah...but it's a pretty big 'one.' Technically, Japan only produced one Godzilla, but that's not much consolation to Tokyo. True, but that's a problem, too. An AI is, at its core, a computer. It gives you exactly what you ask for to the best of its ability, and that in itself can be a problem. It's like a genie that you can't fault for being an asshole. Even Nod field commanders can at least use discretion, but 'discretion' falls outside of normal logic. Say you tell LEGION to capture a GDI base, and don't give it any additional or secondary objectives. It succeeds in its mission, and then you ask about GDI casualties. Turns out, they were heavy, but a fair number surrendered...and then were summarily executed, because it's easier to dig a mass grave than look after a few dozen POWs. Alternate scenario: LEGION dispatches its troops, then a few hours later sends a request for additional troops. Turns out that the troops under its command were killed to the last because they failed to capture the base and kept at it until they were dead. In other words, you need to make sure there are a lot of safeguards and parameters when you rely on AIs to do work for you. Because, for better or for worse, they give you exactly what you ask for. Possibly at first, but after the initial mixing-and-matching, it still came down to files in a computer. CABAL had at least parts of backups stored in a number of hidden bunkers, and those had to be hunted down and destroyed to make sure that CABAL stayed destroyed. If it was created by means of combining various human minds, they ceased to be nearly as important after creation. Not that I think they were his clones, but just to play Devil's Advocate, consider the nature of clones: each of them would be, until the instant of death, Kane. It's not about swapping bodies so much as replacing them when they die. And even if Kane is sane enough to cope with being at least the third clone of a dead man, I'm sure that he's smart enough to know that he, that specific individual, will cease to be upon death. Kane will still exist, possibly with all the memories of his previous incarnations, but it won't be that individual any more. If we're looking at, for instance, Kanes A, B, and C, B and C would be dormant until A dies. Once Kane A dies, Kane B awakens. If Kane B is horribly scarred, but alive, he can't 'swap' for the unscarred body of Kane C without ending his own existence. The Fifth Day illustrated the illusion of immortality via cloning quite nicely by simply having one character, while still dying, bring a clone to life, and said clone responded by nonchallantly taking his dying predecessor's clothes for himself. If I recall correctly, the exchange went like this: "You're not even going to wait for me to die?" "Why? You wouldn't." That's just logic, mate. The stuff that makes people badasses tend to also make them difficult to befriend. How many friends did Rambo have? As a side note, I found it surprising that (if that hypothesis is correct) using 'Kane' as a pseudonym for 'Cain' is remarkably effective compared to the traditional immortal technique of clever verbal puns (ie, Louis Cypher) or just spelling their name backwards (Alucard). I guess it's the equivalent of hiding in plain sight rather than using a pathetically obvious disguise.
By not being the Nod who developed those things in the first place. Remember, Nod at this point, at least outwardly, is not a unified force under the command of Kane. They're a religion and a collection of independent colonies scattered throughout GDI space and the Terminus. The problem here is that its GDI presenting this evidence. If you were an impartial government dealing with an aggressive rival power, and said aggressive rival power is presenting evidence of atrocities committed by historical enemies, would you accept it instantly without reservation, or would you be skeptical as to their intentions and motivations? Not to mention that, as I've already said countless times before (yet it fails to stick in people's heads) that GDI and Nod are not enemies at this point. Its been one hundred and fifty years since their last major war, and they have a peace treaty. Nod colonies are allowed to exist openly within GDI space. Everyone seems to keep thinking that these are the exact same factions that they were during the Tiberium Wars timeframe, when they're not. This is not 2047, its 2183. Everyone who participated in the last Tiberium War is dead (save Kane). These are not two factions duking it out for survival on a planet where the ground is trying to eat them. These are former enemies who haven't fired shots at one another in nearly a century beyond fanatic terrorist raids by splinter groups and are expanding into the greater galaxy. Nearly a century of peace, expansion into space, and mass effect technology has changed Nod and GDI. By not having relations with any unified Nod government, as there is no acknowledged Nod government up until Kane showed up. I'm gonna have to disagree there. The Batarian Hegemony practices systematic hard-labor slavery (involving surgica implanation of torture devices) and oppresses its populace to a degree comparable to North Korea. And while Nod has committed horrific experimentation and atrocities, those are child's play compared with the systematic slavery that the batarians practice. Not to menton that atrocities alone aren't enough to get one entirely blacklisted, especially when those atrocities were committed a century ago by a government that no longer officially exists. The Council includes a species that was fine with unleashing the genophage, has another species for whom orbitally destroying city blocks to kill single fireteams is acceptable, and the Council as a whole was kosher with the genocide of the entire rachni species and was willing to allow the batarians to have an embassy and be a member of the the Citadel despite openly practicing horrific slavery. Saints, the Council ain't. They'd work with Nod and Kane so long as Nod was agreeable, especially considering all the bad things that they did in the past would be viewed with great skepticism due to animosity between the Council and GDI.
OMG THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING Why the Scrin are so intrested about him... How he regenerates, Where his knowledge of advanced technology come from... Either that of he is a rogue Prothean.
Probably the most tragically hilarious detail of batarian slavery is that they rely on it as part of a caste system so much that they consider someone being anti-slavery as racist against batarians.
...have you ever tried to think of the answer to a really simple question, only to realize that you don't have the slightest idea what the answer to that question is? I'm trying to find out the names of the three Councilors, and I got Valern and Tevos, but I can't find the salarian's name. Even IMDB just credits each one as 'Turian Councilor,' 'Asari Councilor,' and 'Salarian Councilor.' Do we even know the salarian Councilor's name?
Going along with the Larry, Curly and Moe. Well, that's a little harsh for the Salarian and Asari. They don't really deserve that hate. Now, the Turian, on the other hand...
Adlin? I know that history is written by the victors and is filled with liars but if for example some STG member looked on GDI's historical archives ... and looked out for major incosistencies ... they would find VERY VERY few when it came to paint Nod as a monster ... because they truly were one. So the Council is, I think certain *but not openly stating it*, that Nod is probably more dangerous then GDI, because of its sneaky nature. They just want to screw with GDI for behaving like a petulant man-child to them just by openly discussing, in front of it, possibility of going into bed with a known viper. Yeah. Galactic real-politics sucks.
Now that's a good thought. I'm going to have to remember that one while I play the game. I guess that Asari is Truth, Salarian is Mercy, and Turian is Regret? Truth, the great overlord, Mercy, the syncophant who isn't too bad, and Regret, the overeager bastard who was stupid enough to attack Earth with a tiny fleet. (Well, maybe he didn't know that they were there.)
Personally, its the quotation marks on the second game that aggravate me. Damn Turian and his secret desire to be human. . . ! Thats It! Valern secretly wants to be human. Thats why he's so opposed to us! Human envy! Like penis envy, but considerably more annoying. Edit: Huh, that sounds more childish written down than in my head. . .
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. ... God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning--the sixth day. But the LORD said to him, "Not so; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden. Kane is deliberately referencing this, no two ways about it. 136 years. That takes you from the War of 1812, where the Brits burned the American Capital, through the mutual threats of the American Civil War, through both World Wars, and into the Berlin Airlift.
Is that a suggestion, or his name? If the latter, great, though I'm not sure where you found it. But again, those are historical archives. Nod hasn't done anything public and noteworthy for over a century, and they've been reduced to the moderately-popular religion that they used to be. ...again, over a century ago. As far as they know, 'Kane' is a title granted to the spiritual leader of a widely known human religion, and GDI is so paranoid that they think it's the same guy each time after having impaled/ion-cannoned him in the past. Look at the papacy: they share names all the time, and nobody thinks that they're the same guy back from the dead.
How old is Kane in this continuity anyway? Even the council must find it strange that every spiritual leader of Nod looks exactly the same as Kane. Though the speculation of people in the story who or what Kane is would be most welcome.
