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Strongest land animal that a human could kill unarmed

Discussion in 'Vs. Debates' started by EricD, May 19, 2013.

  1. EricD The Bee-Wolf

    Let's say you take a man in good physical condition. He's no Olympic athlete but he's in pretty good shape, pretty strong and fast as humans go. He has some experience in martial arts, he knows what he's doing when it comes to wrestling, boxing and things like that but he's no champion or anything. He has no weapons, no armour more protective than just the every day clothes on his back.

    What is the strongest land animal that this human could kill in a fight? Of both herbivores and carnivores, what is the biggest, meanest, most physically powerful animal that a human stands a good chance of killing in a face to face fight unarmed?
  2. Drachyench Registered

    Well, we can start with a Buck and / or Leopard and move on from there (since we have precedent of such). Mind, just because SOME can kill them doesn't mean it's a sure thing.

    Are we looking for the strongest land animal a human could reliably kill, or that they could in general?
  3. uju32 Mad Doctor

  4. Wetapunga God Of Ugly Things

    Unarmed? Hmmmm difficult

    Simply picking up a rock in one hand to use as a bludgen effectively puts humans near the top of the food chain. There are few things that can't be crippled/killed with a well timed blow to the head with a stone

    Fighting with weapons is so inbuilt into humans, why else do you think children who have never seen any depictions of combat ever will still pick up sticks and duel with them as spears/swords or have wars throwing rocks/dirt at each other. Its natural human instinct to use the materials available in the environment to augment our physical atributes.

    Even bare soil can be used as a weapon thown into eyes


    Its rather important what the terrain, location, surface material is for this fight. It determines what might be onhand for a human to gain the advantage
  5. Daedwartin Ordo Malleus Inquisitor

    This. We are here because evolution forced us to become tactical geniuses for nature's purpose. Even a untrained unarmed human if given something we can use as a club will instinctively decide the club over fists.

    The unarmed part lasts as long as we don't find a sufficiently hard stick or a large enough rock. Human style of fighting is find a way to skirt the current rules and cheat while still being within the rules. We have grown mighty effective at it. If the person knows how to make a spear? Theoretically no living animal alive is unkillable. Heck, all we have to do to kill some animals is just run after them long enough that it dies from exhaustion.
  6. I've saw once in a book about big game hunting that a leopard that was careless can be killed by a very strong man. Apparently leopards have relatively fragile ribcages compared to other predators of similar size and if the leopard was in a face-to-face fight then it messed up, as they are normally the stealthiest of the big cats. I'm still not sure if I'd give the man "good chances" though.

    At the very least this man should be able to kill a cheetah more than 5 times out of 10. A cheetah has to suffocate even the <40 kg gazelles that it catches since it isn't strong enough to break their necks.
  7. An average brown bear? (that means not a grizzly or Kodiak bear)
  8. shipmastersane PHOENIX WRORT: SPACE ATTORNEY!

    Unreliably, and if you had the hypothetical perfect one-punch candidate, you'd be very surprised how many things a human could kill with a fluke hit.
  9. Tsjoat So, you too huh?



    Sometimes, we get get our asses kicked, then we get lucky. He could have finished the bear off if he didn't stop to get the fish. ;)
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  10. Drachyench Registered

    There was another story brought up a while back which entailed a father breaking the neck of a buck. Mind, supposedly the thing had recently dashed through a glass door and the father was on adrenaline something awful (the buck had crashed into their daughter's room).
  11. Leopard can easily rip you to shreds, though. If you lose control of it for a second, you're going to learn why even large dogs respect house cats...

    -

    Aligators/crocs are doable, even more easily than many smaller and squishier animals. Exhaust it and it will collapse from stress.
  12. Galorian Seeker of Yields

    All you really have to do to take down an alligator is to force it's mouth shut- it's pretty much a matter of time after you manage that.
  13. Splattercat The New Guy

    I have three Great Danes and a house cat that they will only challenge if she is on the floor, in the open and they have superior numbers....
  14. Nature deliberately made us physically weak, but with a great brain, in order to force us to develop technology... Indeed: "Necessity is the mother of invention" The Earth Spirit wants us teched-up for when the Tyranids come to pay a visit. We will be the planet's antibodies.

    Now on topic: I heard of a guy once in Africa killing a Lion with his bare hands. I don't know if that were true. If it was then there must have been some advantageous circumstances for the Human; the Lion was already wounded, exhausted or something.
  15. Hmm, she might have overdesigned us, then, as the antibodies seem to be doing as much damage to the 'earth spirit' as any disease :p

    Unarmed against animal, though? A lot of fights could go either way pretty reliably. A big dog can kill a man pretty easily, and a man, if he controls the situation properly, can do much the same. I doubt a person can reliably kill any bear, the mass difference is just too high.
  16. Galorian Seeker of Yields

    It's an auto-immune response. :p
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  17. Yes, sadly the antibodies have mutated into a cancer.

    I take your point about circumstances playing a huge part in any human vs animal fight, and you're right too about a bear; there is NO way a human being could ever kill a bear with his bare (childish lol) hands. A bear can end a lion's life with one punch, imagine what it could do to a human skull. Eeek!
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  18. Theocrass Solidarity

    Depends on the size of the animal.

    The biggest crocs can't be restrained by a single person.
  19. Qeveren Well hello there, little friends...

    Moses Lekalau, a Samburu herdsman in Kenya. Though technically he wasn't unarmed; he used a spear and a club. Then, exhausted, he was killed by hyenas immediately afterward. :(
  20. Oh man, I fucking hate hyenas! Opportunistic, cowardly little bastards!!!
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    As to animals, I'd say a man could defeat a bull? Less seriously, since I don't think time scale was mentioned, the man could get his hands on a elephant calf and raise it to adulthood, then easily defeat the unsuspecting and docile beast.
  22. You don't need to restrain it. You just need to evade it and keep it activated. They can't do endurance.
  23. SableCold Lurker

    The ability to use improvised weapons are man's competitive advantage.
  24. Avernus Abomination

    Yes. Humans have been using weapons literally since before we were human. When you get right down to it, if you want to pit a human in our "natural state" against another animal the human should have a spear, not bare hands. An unarmed human in a fight to the death is like a wolf without teeth - we've been deprived of the defense we've evolved to use.

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