[Stupid] Who exactly IS General Grevious? [/stupid]

HBMC take exception to anything that says CW Grievous was in any way shape or form different (save apparently for the voice) fromt the EP3 Grievous.

Aye, but that's a different matter to saying EP3 Grevious is cooler. HBMC is not saying EP3 version is cooler, he's saying he's the SAME. That's rather the crux of his argument.

But they're not. Ep3 Grievous is a total pansy wuss who isn't even fit to polish CW Grievous' armor.

As I recall, Grievous was the C-in-C of his species' military. They were at war with another species that ended up joining the Republic and the Jedi put a stop to the war. Afterwards, the other species made some sweetheart deals with a couple of Senators and the resulting treaty gave Grievous' people the shaft.

After this, his planet became dirt poor, so he took a job commanding the IG Banking Clan's Droid army. He had an accident and the IGBC gave him his current body. Incidentaly, he doesn't know it but some of the circuitry was screwing around with his brain, making him extra ruthless and nasty.

Why is he coughing? Does he actually have lungs?

Or was he sorta aphyxiated to near-death, and sorta stuck, psychologically?

At the end of Clone Wars Mace Windu force-crushed his chest.

Yes but.....still he doesent have lungs. He doesent breath so why the fuck was he caughing? Thats like the Battle droids, screaming for mercy and spewing death cries.

He had a heart, and some organic parts in his torso, though...

In case this hasn't been mentioned yet....

At least from his name alone (and perhaps his lightsabre skills), we can infer that he is either a Sith Lord himself (it does follow the whole Maul/Tyrannus/Sideous/Vader motiff, although he's not referred to as "Darth Grevious," but then again Ob-Wan was usually referred to as "General Kenobi" rather than by his full Jedi name) or Lucas was just really having an off day when he came up with the name.

Nah, that sounds like bollocks to me.

Grievous never displayed any sort of Force-based...... anything. Of any kind. Ever.

Nor was it ever implied by anyone in any way that there was anything of the sort going on.

He doesn't? I haven't seen CW, but I saw nothing in the movie to indicate that he has no lungs. The region of organic junk in his torso was the same area that contains lungs in humans, and heis remaining organic parts would presumably need oxygen or some other gas to function. It also, of course, explains the coughing.

And before anyone points out him surviving his space walk early in the movie, it's quite possible that he can "hold his breath" for much longer than a normal organic, since he has a relatively small mass of organic material to keep supplied with oxygen/other gases. Plus, it's obvious that his body is adapted in other ways to survive in a vacuum, considering his eyes didn't explode from the lack of pressure.

Then I guess we're forced to conclude Lucas had his off-day then and the best he could come up with is a name that, when you think about it, as cool as it might be is actually lame

That's true.

It goes without saying Count Dooku has elicited a snicker or two from the Peter Griffins of the world.

Apparently, and I have to laugh every time I type this..

the official lucasfilm/licensing stance is, the book Labyrinth of Evil is the true sequence of events that led up to ROTS.

unfortunately, this means that the entirety of the massively cooler pre-ROTS battle for coruscant is replaced by the gay events of LOE, including a non-chest crushing Windu v Grievous battle.

But to rationalise Grievous coughing like a bitch, we have to shoehorn in the clone wars events.

I bet if a visual representation of the SW canon was created, it would be this giant, mutilated, hunch-backed, freakish Frankensteins monster beast, with raw gaping wounds where various parts have been torn out and left to bleed...

i've heard he got some sort of blood transfusion...from a different species...to give him mild force mojo. bleh.

Look, Having Grievous all the time is okay by me, but than have him fight as if he was kind of a sissy is stupid!

Hell, if i was Grievous, i could done a lotter better in ROTS than he did.

Indeed. Run forwards and spin all the sabers at once. That'll ruin Obi-wan's day.

Swordsmanship can only hold up so long against having four times as many swords as your opponent.

Damn right.

Instead of using the lightsabres to atack from four different angles, he instead made a slow swing with just two arms...and both in the same angle and direction

I'd have down a whirling dervish attack since I know Grevious can spin his body like a top without getting dizzy.

Seems Ep III Grevious just had a bad day on Coruscant.