Tsun on Tsun combat! First to Dere loses the fight but wins our hearts! (ZnT #37)

Discussion in 'The Index' started by Robo Jesus, Apr 17, 2012.

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  1. HecateGW No longer rampant and practicing techno-sorcery.

    Definitely looks promising.

    Halkeginia shall never know what hit it.
  2. hmm, for the index, THIS snip was supposed to be called

    Dan-heron: Black Rock Shooter, Of Fools and Maids (1)

    Not Fool 2
  3. mdkcde Not good enuff.

    are all SRW characters such blatant Mary Sues?
  4. seeing the fans talking about it, I think so, Mdkc

    also, an old question for Of Fools and Maids:

    How soon would Mato intervene when Fool and Maid Gunner start trying to kill each other and she decides blowing off their legs is better than having two corpses?
  5. I say she would get involved the moment she realizes that they are actually trying to kill each other rather than performing the traditional Paradox greetings of tearing off the other person's limbs.
  6. SmallTips Ally of convenience

    I assure you that those are the two biggest Villain Sues.

    The protagonists are somewhat more balanced. Apparently, you need Villain Sues to stand a chance against Hot-Blooded mech pilots.
  7. John Chrichton is all that *And* uses wormholes, which are like black holes, only more awesome. :p :D
  8. Darth Artemis Hero Prinny

    Not really, no. Shu and Ingram are far and away the worst of the lot, and they get their status mostly by being key figures in the Classic and Alpha series, meaning they had development across several games where most characters only get one. Most of the rest get the same treatment that we're giving Akiko in Battle Fantasia's first arc -- central to the story yes, and they get more personal attention than a lot of the crossover characters by virtue of needing their characters developed more, but generally they're only one important face in a huge crowd of badasses and the spotlight rotates between them pretty evenly.
  9. Robo Jesus Your Mechanical Messiah

    Fixed. Also, can you tell me what you want all of the other previous snippets titled as?
  10. I got bit by a plot bunny, and I have a question for y'all.

    Now, I've never actually seen or read the source material, but this work has somehow managed to grab me. I've gleaned that water magic can be used to heal physical wounds, but can it be used for psychological? Most familiars summoned in these crossovers are usually pretty put together, or at least secure in their madness if not, and usually end up forcing Louise to grow, intentionally or accidentally, by that fact. I have an idea for a character who is is pretty psychologically broken at the start and I want to know if he could just be healed in the setting and derail the idea before it even begins.
  11. Andmeuths Sporadic Author

    Snips please. Really. Write That. In the right hands, it might just become another Hill of Swords.

    Emiya Kitsurugu with Gandalfar runes? I smell a butchery.
  12. Hassam Mad Engineer

    To your question I have no idea. That said it would be interesting for Louise to summon a character who is going through an important developmental event/phase. For example it would be interesting to see Shiki (KNK) summoned during the time she was trying to claw out her eyes.
  13. I always thought that a post avatar Sokka would be best for a summon, he's grown older, wiser, and gained a lot of maturity and experience from traveling with Aang and company. That said, after having traveled with the Gaang something like getting summoned to another world isn't even going to phase him for very long if at all after what he's experienced.

    He's more of a guile hero by the end though, and considering he's argueably the smartest of the group...
    Must be done, but does he show up in his little shuttle pod, Moya, or Talon(Moya's kid)?
  14. Darth Artemis Hero Prinny

    I think I know what ES is going to say to this, and if I'm right I agree with him for once -- that's boring. Post-Avatar Sokka might be a better summon but it probably wouldn't make for a better story; think of how much more interesting things would be if Sokka and Louise were maturing together rather than Louise doing it by herself.
  15. True enough, so who will be whooping his ass into shape to prove women can fight? Agnes would be the obvious choice, but who else would work?
  16. Hassam Mad Engineer

    The Heavy Wind.

    actually perhaps a duel with Monmon instead of Guiche. the twist being Monmon wins.
  17. Oni Standing behind you.

    Only if it's done in a way that makes it clear to all that she didn't win just cause she had magic. Such as Sokka having victory pretty much in hand, only to lose by virtue of a kick to the balls.
  18. The thing is, Sokka is a "Commoner", which means that most nobles will be out to kill him for "daring to challenge a noble", even if they started the challenge.
  19. Hassam Mad Engineer

    I was thinking how about a Tiir Rumibul (Legend of the Legendary Heroes) summon, preferably after the creation of the Anti-Roland Federation (so he doesn't kill Louise on site). His powers are basically to absorb energy and release it (he eats people/magic to increase his strength).
  20. With the Vivio summon if Jail actually did track her down I wonder what Louise's response would be.

    Random fun idea on that note, if Jail tracks down and kidnaps Vivio post season 4 (or the light novel equivalent point) Louise uses the World Door spell when Jail is out for a coffee or whatever, grabs Vivio, blows up half his lab in retaliation and jumps back within the span of about a minute. Jail comes back to see his lab destroyed and the Saint Kaiser clone gone and the Numbers are equally clueless as to what happened (at least until the surveillance footage can be recovered from the wreck).
  21. thesevenwielder Pondering...

    This is JAIL. The one that Riot Force Six had trouble with. I doubt Louise could manage anything like that.
  22. Master Basher Just how long do you intend on continuing?

    In fact, I'd have to fear for Louise. Not in the sense of Jail wanting Vivio back, but more of suddenly being 'interested' in a non TSAB Protected world and her Void Affinity in general.
  23. thesevenwielder Pondering...

    On another note, I'm disappointed with how the author dealt with Wardes. He's supposed to be a SQUARE CLASS wind mage, an expert double-agent, and he got taken out like a punk. He was only brought back as a zombie, and got taken out rather handily again.

    KARIN is a square-class mage. Even in Royalty square-class mages aren't common. I think he should have been a competent, recurring villain that more often than not foils the protagonist's plans. Also, he could be a way for Karin to show she's not as much of a prick as she acts.

    An great conclusion to the whole Wardes arc would be Karin finally breaking out into her Heavy Wind mode, and there would be an epic battle between her and Wardes. A battle where both of them pull out all the stops, level everything within several miles and be one of the most awesome things EVER.
  24. Flere821 ZnT LN Expert

    Wardes is stil alive in the LNs, as of Vol20 hired by Vittorio to rescue Saito and Tiffania from the Sahara (or just kill them if it's too much trouble to get them out). And Wales was the one turned into a zombie, not Wardes >.<

    And equating Wardes with Karin in terms of power? According to the KSS, Karin's far above normal Square mages, that she'd be able to just curbstomp Wardes if it came down to a fight.


    @Vivio summon: Colbert got hit by the Incompetent so much I cringed. I find it hard to believe he's just allow a child to become a familiar and get branded >.> Apart from that though, the idea has potential I think.
  25. thesevenwielder Pondering...

    Right. For some reason I was thinking of Abomination!Wardes from Be Careful What You Wish For. My bad.

    I haven't read the Karin Side Stories. All I know is that both her and Wardes are both Square Class, and while Karin technically might be more experienced she has been out of the service for at LEAST 20 years (I assume she gave up a military life when she popped out her first kid), and even if she continued to self-train, it isn't the same as active service.
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