Widening the Lens [MLP ISOT] World Building/discussion thread #4

I suppose we would have to devise the nuclear equivalent of a cryo bomb

I dunno if she could live through a nuke. Yeah the princess is powerful and all and for all purposes immortal or extremely long-lived, but I don't think she is invincible.

Any being capable of psychically moving a star is far beyond any nuclear weapons current humanity could build.

The problem with trying to find something that will decisively deal with the Royal Sisters is that we really don't have any hard info to help quantify their relative strengths or really what the full extent and range of their abilities are.
All we do have is headcanon and best guesses based on what the three standard pony types can do, it seems to me that we have to first asses the high end and low end of the Princess's abilities before we can determine how much gun it would take to dispatch them

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I dunno about that just because she has really power TK doesn't mean she's anymore bullet proof than you or I am

To kill one of them with a nuke would take the offensive party managing to give them not even a second's warning with a nuke large enough to effect an area over 1000 miles in radius bare minimum to insure that they don't just teleport out of the way.

We know Twilight can teleport 3 times her own weight over 100 miles, likely more, and given the extra power the royal sisters have it's easy to see that they might be able to go much farther.

That's the bare minimum version. Preferably carpet-nuking the region to glass would work, and pray they don't have global teleport. Oh, and they could teleport nukes back to sender, that's something else we've seen Twilight do, which means they also theoretically could do it.

That's actually pretty easy. Impact speed for an ICBM reentry vehicle can be of up to 4km/s (144000 km/h), and that's before you factor in decoys, reentry manuvering and the fact that it's being fired at you from the other side of the goddamn planet.

It's very hard to protect yourself against something if you have no idea it's coming.

And who says it has to be nuclear? Or are Alicorns immune to Sarin, VX, Novichok agents, Anthrax and all the other horrible, horrible things the US and the Soviets made during the Cold War?

Heck, it's possible to kill them by throwing a DU penetrator at sufficient velocity.

Once again, how do you achieve tactical/strategic surprise against somepony who's power sets involve orbits, motion, and generally keeping track of fast objects being where they're not supposed to be.

Ironically, the best way would be something like out of FO:E, pound them from the outside with obvious attack, before nuking the city out from underneath them (gas of any kind, biological agents of any kind are a *****%*^Ying no-go and war crime). That's probably you're best bet, and even then I'd say 50/50, and you'd be tying up a horrific number of weapons keeping them busy long enough to take them out from below.

Am I the only one who finds this entire 'nuclear weapons v. magical pony deities' thing to be rather ridiculous? I mean, I guess it isn't entirely surprising, considering that this is Spacebattles, but this is silly even by our lofty standards.

I'm rather skeptical that celestial bodies in Equestria are at all like their real life equivalences. Granted, moving a star is an acceptable limit for the high end since there's no evidence that really contradicts it, but an entirely literal interpretation of FiM yields things like Nightmare Moon/Luna moving stars FTL to help her escape from the moon and Luna being able to control every star in the universe if you extrapolate her control of the night. Which is all very silly. It calls into question how Equestria even survives conflicts between beings like Celestia and Nightmare Moon or Celestia and Discord. I tend to think their power levels are a few OoM below FTL/relativistic stars.

You don't. Instead, you spam the fuck out of them. And you use decoys, although that one depends on what they use to actually detect stuff, and whever it can actually tell the difference between a thermonuclear bomb and an aluminized baloon shaped like one.

You could also get sneaky and arm a satelite with kinetic impactors. "Oh don't be silly, that's a weather satelite."

As for the sneak attack nuke...


Well...

Trick them into a magic proof box and have it rigged to dispense every gas, nerve agent, viral thing that can be crammed into it plus various guns, fire, explosions, lasers, basically the whole kitchen sink of death, then you throw it in the marianas trench and hope that works.

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Why are we discussing how to kill celestia with Nerve gas and nukes :wtf:

Did i miss something

Standard "My MILITARY MIGHT is stronger than your CARTOON GOD-HORSE" pissing contest.

This is SpaceBattles. That just means it is Tuesday.

I don't recall it ever saying that Luna controlled the stars and the night, the pilot episode just says "Brought out the moon to begin the night".

However, one can logically assume that as she also managed to block Celestia and keep the sun down that they are similar in power. That, or that Luna is actually more powerful since one would think that if they were equal in power it would be a stalemate.

Lol it actually is Tuesday, but I would like to point out that yesterday (when most of said discussion took place) was in fact a monday

Anyone who dares to attack Equestria like that, ESPECIALLY one of the Princesses, is ASKING for a beatdown. Cue an international incident.
Anyway, back to what the latest episode showed us: With Equestria returning to Earth, the rain cycle won't need the annual water-nado for Cloudsdale to get water. Also, it showed a vintage movie player, with reels and all.

Chances are instead of the annual waterspout they'll just herd wild clouds over to Equestria, so they can keep to a schedule, and any wild clouds that form will probably be herded and penned before they can get rowdy and rain off schedule.

If I were a better writer, I'd do a snippet with Rainbow Dash getting coaching from Applejack on herding wild critters for application to this new aspect of weathermare-ness. With Tank getting tips from Winona.

Well established story snippits have the weather being much hotter and wetter due to equestria now being smack bang in the middle of the pacific in the tropical zone. Lots of Hurricanes to deal with.

Theres my one snippit with Rainnuke Vs Hurricane setting of an international incident.


Anyway my holiday break begins in a few days I should be able to get back into writing snippits for this thread. Whos looking foward to Twilights visit to CERN to see the LHC ?.........Highjinks will ensue

I'm more worried about Twilight discovering Rule 34 of herself and her friends.

If things are mirrored thanks to their "Technology is Courage" show, the ponies probably have wank fiction and rule 34 of the characters from that show.

Considering that Rarity was originally supposed to run a bridle sales store before they realized that would be overdoing it, and that back during season 1 Faust mentioned that Equestria had a thriving speculative fiction market, I would find it odd if they didn't have something like that offscreen.

That could actually be used in this concept.

Rebirth time!

The newest episode had Pinkie imagine spots of a James Bond parody, ninjas, and an old school Dastarly style bit...If Pinkie thought them up, maybe shows like those exist in Equestria?

So, ever since the Season 2 Finale premiered, this idea was bouncing in my head.

During the changling attack, a bunch of bronies are in Canterlot for an unofficial brony convention. Some of the changlings attack them, and learn to their dismay that humans are good at using improvised weapons...

"We're gonna love and tolerate the SHIT out of you."

This idea amuses me. Though my reaction would likely be somewhere between Pinkie's and Fluttershy's.