You will see the Tears of Time!- Mobile Suit Gundam story ideas

Where are they gonna get a GN-XIII? At least they can get a GN-X Tau drive from the wreckage left over from the battle and to be honest, they don't need need Trans-Am on Eins, just enough weaponry to carry its own weight.

Um, blast one? Its a standard mook suit in season 2, which was what I was thinking about. But yeah, you have a point, and they should be able to retune the drive from a GN-X to solve the problem. (Canonically, the poisoning thing is a result of specific drive settings on the throne units). As for trans-am, given how much it gets used, it would be handy to have. That's completely unrelated to what type of drive they use, though. IIRC, the whole wreck the drive issue with transam is common to all tau drives.

They could also somehow fix the Eins' Tau drive to stop radiating; Ian knows more about GN Drives than anyone else, he can definitely come up with something. In fact, doesn't the radiation only affect the weapons? Nena piloted the Drei for years, yet it didn't hurt her; everyone who got shot by Tau particles from a weapon and lived to tell about it was in for a world of hurt. True, Graham got a faceful of particles when his Flag's Tau cooked off but he could've chosen not to remove the scarring out of honor.

A mobile armor would have no need for Trans-Am... but a single Tau drive is far from enough to power a mobile armor.

Yeah, the fix the rad thing would work, and your right about the weapons. The CB crew aren't nearly big enough jerks to give radiation poisoning to everyone they shoot for a tiny increase in weapons power (thats why the thrones were like that). Most of the people they fight are simply soldiers doing their jobs.

Honestly, I just ignore the official explanations for how GN drives work because it's clear the Sunrise people had no one fact check that shit so it made sense (how the fuck does particle density determine color?). I read a great fan explanation for how the GN drives worked and it made way more sense than the Sunrise approved version (and it explained the radiation poisoning too).

ChrisWriter? Did you nuke your post of the ME-UC timeline?

It was lame. Too few changes between the two and none of them were significant. I'm working on a Gundam/Bab-5 timeline now. But I'll repost the Gundam ME timeline since you're interested.

I don't even intend to write stories for either one, I just had to type it because the idea consumed me all morning and wouldn't go away until it was finished.

You see why I took it down rather than waste everyone's time with it? No real changes. The only thing that's different is that the Manswell Expedition settled on Mars instead of Alpha Centauri.

Oh sure, things will be different once the ME plot gets rolling, but there's too great of a chance of things turning into a boring human-wank story. And we get enough of those from the Halo/ME thread.

That said, this timeline is still a good place to start if anyone else is interested in the idea.

Is there a particular reason that the Marsians never found the Prothean Archive so that small changes could start to accrue?

Oh dear...

I just did the math. If it took the Manswell expedition the same time to find ezzo as it took the Lowell colonists in OTL... the Manswells (with help from the Lowellins) would have found Ezzo in around U.C. 71.

Then the Martians try to keep their little secret from the Earth Federation and start listening to the Zeons. They build up their own Militia and Navy...

Thats It! You are brilliant!

Er, thanks?

I wouldn't mind a series of tales that expands the events of both seasons of 00. The first season was excellent, but could have been better if they didn't rush it. And the second season would have been better off as a sequel series. Both had great potential in exploring their worlds, and expanding much of the characters.

True. What I didn't like in the second season is the clear distinction between good guys and bad guys; that wasn't present in the first season and it was this lack of morality that made it my favorite. A potential expansion of the second season could have things seen from the POV of the A-LAWS leadership: all the atrocities the group does could be depicted as not merely done for the lulz but rather as extremely hard choices they desperately hope will pay off someday.

Of course, I'm not talking about generating sympathy for scumbags like that fat asshole who commanded the second Memento Mori; he doesn't deserve it. What I'm talking about is the highest levels of A-LAWS always swearing silently whenever an operation goes bad and civilians die (showing that it's actually the underdogs who are trigger-happy), some of the Innovades growing a conscience, things like that.

That might be good if you ignore all the sidestories and official explanations of how GN drives work. That stuff was pretty stupid.

Question chriswriter90. Wouldn't the ME races also have Minovsky like reactors since they use helium-3 deuterium fusion reactors and your following the physics of UC?

I've always wondered why there hasn't been FTL Gundam before. Perhaps because it would come too close to the Battletech/Mechwarrior Franchise thematically?

That's technically not true with Gundam OO. The aliens definitely had FTL and the humans are shown to use it at the end.
Which does actually make OO more open-ended if they want to use it again.

But being caricatures already, I doubt we'd find anything insightful.

The top brass of the A-laws were fanatics and sycophants chosen by Ribbons because of these traits. At best, Kati was the closest we'd have gotten to a high level officer who was sympathetic.

Though I would mind seeing the Innovades have other emotions than Smug. Really, I'd like to explore the side characters more, like Graham, Nena, Kati, Patrick, give them something more.

Another story idea I had was concerning an alternate plot of SEED Destiny.


Short version: Shinn's sister survives and Shinn is still a jerk, just not quite as much. Rey now has a vendetta against Athrun too.


Long version: a "for want of a nail" situation occurs in regards to Shinn's backstory.

• Original: during their escape attempt from Orb, Mayu loses her phone and has to be restrained from going to look for it. Shinn goes instead which is why he survives the others getting blown up.
• Idea: Mayu breaks away from the group before they can stop her and Shinn goes after her. They both survive but she still gets injured and spends the rest of the story comatose (partially from injuries, partially from the nasty shock of seeing her parents' dismembered corpses).

Mayu acts as the metaphorical chain preventing Shinn from flying off the deep end. He never tells Luna and Rey about the reason behind his frequent disappearances (he goes to visit Mayu) and it also acts as an unspoken chain of loyalty for him as ZAFT keeps paying for Mayu's care for as long as Shinn remains a pilot. Shinn's commitment to his sister also means that he's slightly less susceptible to manipulation than he was in the series; Rey already recommended Mayu's termination several times to Durandal for this reason.

Another "for want of a nail" situation would be during Athrun's desertion: when he tries to turn Shinn over to his side and Rey argues, Athrun could point out that the level of fanatical devotion Rey shows towards Durandal is the very same level of fanaticism that caused the previous war to escalate to the level it did. If it does work and Shinn turns over, he'd soon be hit by a BSOD as he realizes exactly what kind of position his defection puts Mayu in: not only will ZAFT refuse to fund the hospital care of a deserter's relative, she's also in a perfect position to be used by people wanting to get back at him. You see where I'm going with this: Lacus and the others springing Mayu from the PLANTs to secure Shinn's loyalty. That is, if Shinn weren't so goddamn pissed at Kira, constantly picking fights and arguments with him, escalating to an actual fight when Kira nearly shoots down the Impulse (which Shinn knows is being piloted by Luna).

Speaking of which, Shinn refuses to fight Luna but he's not letting Kira do it, either. This nearly costs him his life several times, as Rey figures it out and knowingly uses Luna as a human shield, something she calls him out on (not to mention that he knows all the Destiny's capabilities and weaknesses). In addition, he hesitates fighting anyone in ZAFT (to make sure we won't have the Strike Freedom/Destiny duo completely steamrolling everyone without any effort).


This is the best I can do without asspulls and OOC. Thoughts?

I believe MC has it as well to some extent, not entirely sure where they got it, but considering their other stuff it fits.

The way I see it is that ME races don't use Minovsky style reactors since they don't use Deuterium-Helium3 fusion but pure Helium3-Helium3 fusion reactions. As far as I can remember (can't recall my math/physics sources) pure Deuterium-Helium3 reactions are pretty much impossible to achieve with how we understand nuclear physics today.

In my own headcanon Minovsky's team invented some phlebotinum to sidestep that problem and got m-particles as a side effect.

Wasn't there also some implied interstellar/FTL dickery in CC (Turn-A Gundam)?

Implied in the anime. In the Novelization the Turn A and Turn X both have FTL capability.

Where exactly did you learn that they use Helium3/Helium3 fusion instead of Deuterium/Helium3? There's nothing detailing the principles of their nuclear power source only that they use fusion.

Here the workings of a minovsky reactor

And here's minovsky particles

Straight from the Gundam wiki.

Well, D-He3 produces higher energy output per kilogram of fuel than a Deuterium-Tritium reaction but the higher Coulomb barrier makes it harder to start up and break even with a net gain in energy. On the other hard, reactors containing deuterium are inherently radioactive due to D-D reactions producing high-energy neutrons that activate the reactor casing. He3-He3 has an even higher Coulomb barrier so it's even harder to start up and produces less net energy but next to no neutrons. Pure He3 reactions are currently considered problematic due to fuel scarcity but UC has us covered in that regard with Jupiter.

For reference, I mentioned D-T because that's currently the easiest to achieve energetically, but it's also highly radioactive. Non-radioactive reactions are more coveted but will definitely be not amongst the first commercial power plants until the technology is more fleshed out.

tl;dr version:
I did say it's my own personal theory. Feel free to disagree, ignore and/or correct me if I messed something up or the author makes a clear statement.

Longer version:
From everything I've read about fusion fuels with our current understanding of nuclear physics Deuterium/Helium3 reactors are rather inefficiency because of all the junk reactions going in the background. It's related to temperature/pressure requirements for different fusion fuel mixtures. Long story short while Deuterium/Helium3 mixture is theoretically best, pure Helium3/Helium3 is practically the most viable for energy generation. By extension I apply the same logic to ME Verse: you want a high output reactor - use pure Helium fuel.

Now if you only need plasma for the fusion torch you can probably burn anything you want, but as your handy gundamwiki quotes supply Gundam people use the Deuterium/Helium3 mixture exclusively for it's high energy output and its aneutronic nature. Theoretically its true, in practice for every Deuterium/Helium3 fusion you get something like 4-5 Deuterium/Deuterium reactions which produce much less energy and also produce neutrons (can't remember my exact source on the physics involved right now).

So my own headcannon is that Minovsky type reactors use some kind of unmentioned phlebotinum/handwavium that stops all the unwanted reactions and has something to do with the appearance of m-particles.

Edit: ninja'd by someone who seems to know more about the topic than me

Hahahahaha, no.

The reason why is that the original Mobile Suit Gundam was grounded in reality, even if seen through the lens of the 70s. It's not space opera: the enemy is human, the problems are confined to earth etc. Subsequent series have followed this lead, even if the franchise has flirted with FTL travel (Mission to the Rise, Turn A Gundam, the movie/post-movie Gundam 00 stuff).