A Ghost of a Chance (Worm v1 CYOA, Alt-Taylor)

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joeblac

aattss said:
It would probably take a bit more than that, but yeah, Taylor should make a power nullifier first before torturing Tattletale. Assuming Taylor doesn't decide it's not worth her time.



It has been confirmed that she can learn a mundane version of fictional martial arts, but can't get anything supernatural or otherwise impossible by Wormverse standards. Though the super serum could probably be useful.
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how do you think sinanju would work out.

im thinking a super serum like marvels should get her peak human as soon as possible at minimum.

see a few people here thinking about revenge this is some of what i would do.
i would get back at grue by getting his sister moved into the social care system out of the city or something. do it all online get a social worker involved etc etc
dont see a point getting back at rachel but i would get regent locked up so he cant enjoy his life like the hedonist he is.
lisa i dont know yet.
coil i would want to get him maybe trapped somewhere where his power is useless.
 

verner2

Poor Taylor, I really hope Coil didn't kill Shadow Stalker and lay the blame on her. Let Dragon and/or Armsmaster break her out!
 
Hypersonic

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joeblac said:
how do you think sinanju would work out.

im thinking a super serum like marvels should get her peak human as soon as possible at minimum.

see a few people here thinking about revenge this is some of what i would do.
i would get back at grue by getting his sister moved into the social care system out of the city or something. do it all online get a social worker involved etc etc
dont see a point getting back at rachel but i would get regent locked up so he cant enjoy his life like the hedonist he is.
lisa i dont know yet.
coil i would want to get him maybe trapped somewhere where his power is useless.
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Don’t really see the point in revenge either kill them or move past them, shes got a multiverse to save, why waste time on revenge.
 

Brisingr

Would Taylor be able to tweak one of her organs into a specialised tinker-compound production facility? I mean, the regular organs do that all the time.
Edit: Sorry, ignore that one, I misinterpreted the training method as self-centered Biokinesis

Also, she could probably increase her adrenaline levels to a point, where she is a Brute 2/3 without the Mind-over-Body technique. With that? Oh boy...
 
Tregr

Tregr

Brisingr said:
Would Taylor be able to tweak one of her organs into a specialised tinker-compound production facility? I mean, the regular organs do that all the time.
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I was thinking something similar. Since she has full control over her nerves, maybe she could use her body as a bio-forge either for materials or outright creations. At the basic level make some extra-strong stomach acid to melt through the chains. At higher levels maybe cultivate special bacteria or proteins for some specific purpose. And to go even further, maybe manipulate some particles on the quantum level for makeshift super powers like teleportation or communication.
 
init101

init101

The Prime of Primes
Solution: Have your future self come back in time to deal with all of your problems. Then tinker a bit until you create a time machine and go back in time to solve all your past self’s problems. BOOM!✌
 
gaouw

gaouw

Just a very bored person.
So, of my 3 guesses (SERE, Counterintelligence, Counterinsurgency), the first has been applied, the second partially (through Psychology).

I can't wait for the last part.

Thanks for the new chapter. Keep up the good work.
 
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Time Paradox said:
I´m intrested to see how Taylor decides to walk the line here.
Because Invictus at this point is a double edged sword - sure she can resist mind control and her will is unbreakable, but the longer she is in Coil grasp and doesn´t react the way he expects to her "re-education" the more frustrated he becomes and more than likely starts utilizing crueler and crueler methods to break her until eventually he reaches a point, without her being affected where he decides to cut his losses. In this case meaning killing her and dump her body in the bay.

Therefore she has to be really careful and faking compliance is hard or impossible with Tatletale attending those Q&A and Torture sessions, which pretty much puts her in a bind. She can´t fake it and she is impossible to break ... so if she doesn´t escape and that fast she is gonna die.
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All the more reason for Taylor to choose to escape sooner rather than later.
 

HFS

I have a question about why Contessa is an actual threat to her. From what I know of her power is that she is a normal human with perfect foresight through the use of her shard and this means that in any fight the fight has been planned out by the shard to ensure her victory. The problem is that Blank prevents the shard from seeing Taylor which means from what I can tell is that there is no path to beat her as the shard can't see her, which turns the fight from Contessa the unbeatable precog to Contessa the human vs Taylor batman-lite. Am I missing something here?
 

marackomarac33

HFS said:
I have a question about why Contessa is an actual threat to her. From what I know of her power is that she is a normal human with perfect foresight through the use of her shard and this means that in any fight the fight has been planned out by the shard to ensure her victory. The problem is that Blank prevents the shard from seeing Taylor which means from what I can tell is that there is no path to beat her as the shard can't see her, which turns the fight from Contessa the unbeatable precog to Contessa the human vs Taylor batman-lite. Am I missing something here?
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The attention of Contessa means the attention of the Triumvirate, especially if their "I win" button suddenly doesn't work on a random teenager as opposed to Scion, the Endbringers and the strongest cape alive (Eidolon). While she might beat Contessa she certainly couldn't beat Alexandria.
 
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init101 said:
Solution: Have your future self come back in time to deal with all of your problems. Then tinker a bit until you create a time machine and go back in time to solve all your past self’s problems. BOOM!✌
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Would love to see a story like this where the ROB is the SI from the future starting the loop over again :)

Could also imagine their future self coming back in time and saying “alright you’ve got 70 years ahead of you in this pocket dimension building weapons, have fun bye” before shoving them in killing scion and then partying on a beach, all while the past self fumes at their workload.
 
Yog

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Doesn't Prana-Bindu mastery also involve the mastery of the Voice? I.e., well, voice based mind control? As long as she can get Coil and his men into the room for any appreciable amount of time, she should be able to pull Jessica and have them kill each other.
 

HFS

The metaphysics don't work like that she does NOT have Dune skills she has the closest thing too them possible. The writer has mentioned this like 10 times now.
 
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    • cliffc999

    cliffc999

    In my particular fic, a theme I'm going to go with is 'Unlike actual Brutes and Thinkers, Taylor still has to execute all this stuff using her ordinary human biology.' (Plus, of course, whatever cyberware or bioware she can hypothetically splice in later, but that's another thing entirely.)

    Which means that there will be a limit as to how much she can emulate other power tricks without the necessary technological support, because she's still a finite organic life form that operates on the laws of physics of Earth-Bet without direct access to Shard bullshit.

    Remember, her only power is Inspired Inventor itself (plus her perks). This means that the reality-bending effects of Tinkering will cluster tightly around actual Tinkering, not be all over the periphery non-Tinkering uses of II. (add) I understand that the interpretation of that particular passage is sometimes disputed, but that just means that every user of the CYOA has to decide on an interpretation for themselves and this is the one I chose.

    So regarding super-skills and suchlike, the downloading part is taken care of thanks to II and likewise the using of the skills... but only up to her physical limits. Just like she couldn't use an alien martial art intended for sentient octopi because she doesn't have the tentacles, she can't bust out Solar Hero Style effects because she doesn't have the Solar Exaltation. For that matter, she doesn't even have access to Exalted physics because a) wrong CYOA and b) didn't pay points for a crossover.

    Likewise she doesn't have the auxiliary shard bullshit that lets Thinkers do what they do so even if she gave herself a ton of charges in (for example) Deduction she still couldn't do a Tattletale because Tats has a giant extradimensional server farm to offload the computational load to and thus be able to perceive and number-crunch so many micro-clues in realtime, and Taylor does not.

    Or to use another analogy, it doesn't matter what software you potentially have available if your hardware can't install or run it.

    And this is why her Prana-Bindu training allows her to do many of the most ridiculous 'tapping capacities that normally lie unused in every human' such as hysterical strength or the wildest dreams of yoga adepts or suchlike, but doesn't let her actually do Space Magic because she's not in the Space Magic Universe.
     
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    Good to know.

    Also, Random Question, but seeing as we're unlikely to see this occur in the fic itself, what would placing a Charge into [Human] History accomplish for her? I assume that 1 = Collegic Professor [N/A Specialization], but how would you describe it cliff? Same with Philosophy or Literature*, if you've got the time?

    *I assume that Taylor might dump in points here at some point due to sentamentality and nostalgia for her mother.
     
    cliffc999

    cliffc999

    Orion Ultor said:
    Also, Random Question, but seeing as we're unlikely to see this occur in the fic itself, what would placing a Charge into [Human] History accomplish for her?
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    Hmmm. Off the top of my head, rule of thumb is...

    In fields of knowledge that don't remotely apply to the PRT scale at all I'm thinking 1 charge is 'ordinary experienced professional'. 2 charges, 'best in the world' type mastery. 3 charges, either [BULLSHIT] or [wasted overkill] depending on subject matter and context.'

    So to use paranormal law, for example... 1 charge is Carol Dallon, 2 charges is Quinn Calle, and 3 charges is 'everything those two had plus downloaded every word in the entire law library'.
     
    Black Duke

    Black Duke

    I’m glad to hear that this arc won’t be lasting long; I’m definitely not a fan of the Coil torture porn. And there isn’t much for her to do in the cell either lol.

    Also, the more I think about it, the more reasonable(ish) Coil’s actions seem. With what he knew, he probably thought that he could say “Sophia is Shadow Stalker”, and Taylor would be tripping over herself to join him. If that fails, just threaten her father and have Tattletale check to make sure she isn’t slipping anything in anywhere. And if not, he could just drug her until all she can do is eat, sleep, tinker fugue, or be high.

    As for handling her disappearance, it was already mentioned / demonstrated how easily things can get lost in bureaucracy, and doubly so with his agents trying to keep it hidden. It’s not like Taylor was likely a huge priority for the BB PRT.

    It looks stupid to us because we know that Taylor already knew about Sophia, we know that drugging her won’t work, and we know Dragon is going to be looking for her soon. Coil doesn’t know any of this, though. And that, is dramatic irony.

    But yeah, I’m liking this Coil; he’s not completely idiotic, so it’ll be all the sweeter when Taylor crushes him, and he’s already doomed to fail, so we won’t be stuck in Coil’s rape dungeon for too long.

    And lastly, I’m hoping the Undersiders get some brutal (and IMO well deserved) comeuppance. Maybe I’m just a vindictive asshole, but I’d be really disappointed if Taylor just let what they’ve done go. On the other hand, really fucking them up doesn’t really fit with my read of this Taylor. She should still be in the ‘I want to be a hero’ frame of mind she had at the start of canon, unless John’s memories and meta knowledge beat that out of her. (Haven’t seen anything to indicate that)
     
    Orion Ultor

    Orion Ultor

    cliffc999 said:
    So to use paranormal law, for example... 1 charge is Carol Dallon, 2 charges is Quinn Calle, and 3 charges is 'everything those two had plus downloaded every word in the entire law library'.
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    Cool.

    Also, for subjects such as this, that change over time, does the Charge self-update to include new knowledege and practices that didn't exist at the time of "Installation"?
     
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