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A Young Woman's Political Record (Youjo Senki/Saga of Tanya the Evil)
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I vote for the Hell Hounds.
blackmamuth
Lazy Lurker
Also, on the 203 company, on volume 4, the commonwealth refers to Tanya battalion as a "named battalion" and "The empire elite unit", but no mention of Tanya subordinates.
Hmm, I guess if you want to use an empire named, I guess you could use Major Hofen, third division, 213 mage battalion. he was part of the two trapped divisions in tiegenhoff (volume 4), that managed to held on. No callsign, but there aren't that many imperial mages not part of tanya unit mentioned.
There is also Schones, from the first novel. Being a veteran from the rhine front, he may qualify as a named. Again, no callsing and confirmation of his status.
Also, I don't know because the official material hasn't been translated yet, but Mary Sue has a callsing and named status?
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Hmm, I guess if you want to use an empire named, I guess you could use Major Hofen, third division, 213 mage battalion. he was part of the two trapped divisions in tiegenhoff (volume 4), that managed to held on. No callsign, but there aren't that many imperial mages not part of tanya unit mentioned.
There is also Schones, from the first novel. Being a veteran from the rhine front, he may qualify as a named. Again, no callsing and confirmation of his status.
Also, I don't know because the official material hasn't been translated yet, but Mary Sue has a callsing and named status?
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smthng
Not yet lecturest
Well, that sounds like Visha, all right. Though, given how the names were given during wartime, the intelligence that was in use when a name was selected might have been limited. Thus the names might have been rather odd, at times.
So, like, maybe the allies had found out something about Visha. Like, for example that she was a Rus. So they might, like, name her the Red Comet, or something.
I'd argue the real surprise was the Empire letting Tanya take the Type 95 to the front at all. Given it was the key to developing the double cores of the 97s, risking losing the prototype to the Republic or destruction.
Her mastery of the type 95 of course made Tanya the obvious training officer for the type 97s. That she proved to have what it took to become one of the twelve knights was a welcome surprise.
As a comment on this story, a view point from the former Imperial countries would be welcome. Perhaps a former 203 member who wasnt from Germania.
Ganurath
Amateur Bandwagon Thief
Visha: "I could-"
Not what he meant.
Visha: "Aww..."
I'm sure some POV time from you would be popular, though.
Visha: "Really?"
Yes. There are shippers.
Visha: "...Huh. I didn't realize that I had those sort of fans."
Indeed. You're considerably more popular than you appreciate, especially when you're with Tanya?
Visha: "The Ma- Er, the Chancellor? I'm... glad the shippers want me to stay with her, I think?"
I'm sure they'll be ecstatic to hear that.
Visha: "Navy people are weird."
What was that?
Visha: "Nothing!"
Random Shinobi
Harlequin of Death
That Named thing is used very inconsistently in both the manga and the novels. Five kills makes a mage an ace and thirty (fifty in the manga) kills makes them a Named, an Ace of Aces. Also, having more than six aces in the same unit makes that unit Named.
However, Tanya becomes "the Argent/White Silver" before she even has the five confirmed kills needed to become an ace... I assume it was done simply to bolster morale at the start of the war. Of course, she then got the Type 95, went on a rampage on the Rhine front and become a Named in truth.
However, Tanya becomes "the Argent/White Silver" before she even has the five confirmed kills needed to become an ace... I assume it was done simply to bolster morale at the start of the war. Of course, she then got the Type 95, went on a rampage on the Rhine front and become a Named in truth.
I have read the four translated novels and at least in them no other Named has been mentioned by Name. Also, I don't think that the company (107th Reconnaissance Mage Company) Tanya nuked had any actual Named mages in it. I assume they simply had more than six aces, making them a Named unit. The novel is a bit unclear on this...
LoverOfParadoxicalFate
Seeker Of Interesting Things
the whole "Silver" thing is because Tanya survived getting a medal people DON'T survive getting and the medal was like "Silver Wing Assault Medal" IIRC.
The 95 was not some unique irreplaceable lostech prototype made in times immemorial. No one else was capable of actually using it, but it was perfectly replaceable by the tech the Empire had, if expensive, at least to the level needed for it to serve as a model for the dual core orbs.
At worst some specific "miraculous" minor imperfection that made it usable for Tanya doesn't happen again, but they don't seem to have the tech to actually discover what exactly it was (because it was literally divine intervention), so there's not much point in keeping it on the rear for further studies, specially without Tanya.
I believe it was mentioned that when they tried to recreate the 95's success it led to the facility they did it at becoming a crater.
One thing to remember, when Being X first "blessed" the Type 95, the program had already (on Tanya's recommendation) been de-funded and de-facto cancelled. Schugel used the last of the already-approved funds he had to arrange that last test before the official shutdown order arrived. After the "miracle," Schugel actually announced he wouldn't even try to duplicate the Type 95, declaring that to make the attempt would be sacrilege. With the driving mind behind the Type 95 refusing to work on it any more, the funding already cancelled, and an actual war going on, it is quite understandable why High Command decided not to divert the resources to re-start it, and allowing Tanya to keep the prototype doesn't cost them anything or introduce any extra logistical burdens.
It also helps that the work Schugel put into the Type 95 went towards creating the Type 97, which was a enough to give the empire the edge they were after in the war.
jacobk
I am the danger
The final level of complexity is that there are friendly Named and enemy Named. Friendly Named are mages who have shown themselves to be a cut above the rest. They are an inspiration to your side when they show up on the battlefield. Enemy Named are mana signatures that are known to be dangerous that you keep track of so you know when they show up.
Usually the two will coincide, being earned by killing a bunch of the enemy, but Tanya's early career shows the difference. One doomed charge where the person probably died isn't enough for the enemy to put her on the list, while bravery above and beyond the call of duty coupled with tremendous skill and willingness to sacrifice herself is enough for the Empire to elevate her status.
No, they only made one success and quit after because everyone agreed it was divine intervention that it worked in the first place, along with the chief engineer saying it’d be blasphemy against god
Actually yes in volume 1 chapter 3 it is stated that during an attempt to recreate the 95 an entire laboratory and it's staff was lost when it exploded.
Dbdrake
Actually A Dragon
Also, the fact she is cute(?) little girl who is willing to play along with the propoganda probably helps.
Ganurath
Amateur Bandwagon Thief
...For a given definition of 'willing' in the case of photo shoots.
Wow, i hope no one teaches them advanced stealth processes for using their magic.
Thought of another set of Biblical phrases for Tanya:
Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!”
When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number.
And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.
(the somewhat infamous 2 Kings 2: 23-25)
The first phrase reflects how Germania has sought nothing but to recover and rebuild but is harassed and mocked by the Francois; this is uttered as she is first spotted by the sentries.
The second phrase is Germania cursing the Francois and X sending Tanya to dispense justice upon them; said just before Tanya bombards them.
The third phrase is Tanya, looking upon the ruins of the encampment before returning.
Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!”
When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number.
And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.
(the somewhat infamous 2 Kings 2: 23-25)
The first phrase reflects how Germania has sought nothing but to recover and rebuild but is harassed and mocked by the Francois; this is uttered as she is first spotted by the sentries.
The second phrase is Germania cursing the Francois and X sending Tanya to dispense justice upon them; said just before Tanya bombards them.
The third phrase is Tanya, looking upon the ruins of the encampment before returning.
Mysterious Dark Lord v3.2
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Wrong.
In her first battle, the one where she earned her Silver Wings Assault Medal, she had six confirmed kills, making her an "ace-in-a-day". And she was technically still a cadet, on her last field training assignment. Which is why she won the SWAM in the first place.
Random Shinobi
Harlequin of Death
Wrong on both accounts. She got only two confirmed kills, the rest were unconfirmed. Also, she got the medal for saving a battery.
EDIT: Actually, which version are you talking about? I'm talking about the novels. All three versions (novels, manga and anime) are slightly different...
JamJackEvo
Anime Conversion at 90% ; RL body is still IRL.
MDL's probably talking about the manga. IIRC, that version had Tanya accomplishing the most MILITARY GAINS.
If Tanya complains of not being an engineer as an excuse of why she can’t introduce future tech, then why not suggest nuclear energy? The general concept of high school physics could lead to understanding how it works. She knows uranium is the key. Magic ballistic missiles should also be a plot point. Where’s the inspiration from modern media like magic gundams or making magic swords?
Edit: This isn’t really a complaint but I feel like the plot is sticking a bit too close to pre ww2 history for all the deviations introduced. China or South America isn’t mentioned at all and magic existing would drastically change their history by this point in comparison to Europe.
Edit: This isn’t really a complaint but I feel like the plot is sticking a bit too close to pre ww2 history for all the deviations introduced. China or South America isn’t mentioned at all and magic existing would drastically change their history by this point in comparison to Europe.
No, general high school physics would be nothing the physicists at the time didn't already know and were thinking of. That said knowing some history and having an interest in nuclear energy may lead them to pursue the route the US took to eventually develop it, as opposed to the dozen or so different routes the Germans attempted to pursue without any real success.
Of course that sort of knowledge won't be enough to convince the scientist and everyone around you that you know what you're doing(i.e no telling people to work on creating isotopic seperation centrifuges for uranium because you said so), but may be enough to let Tayna identify which of the projects proposed is a valid one and have all their efforts focus on that one.
okay, so she knows that Uranium is the key, what is the next step?
this is not me being facetious, i went to high school, and am fairly well read, and would despite having read some of the papers on russian lead-cooled reactors, still have not the faintest clue where to start on creating nuclear power.
i believe most people really underestimate the amount of steps and knowledge needed to replicate even the most 'basic' of modern technology.
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