Khan is armed with the Boolean gun and his phaser rifle in the Klingon scene on Kronos from the film vs. Darth Vader. This is the suited version. Start 30 meters apart. Darth Vader is armed with his light saber. Who wins ?
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Khan (Into Darkness) vs. Darth Vader (canon only)
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Helezhelm
Morilantë
Easy win for Darth Vader, even in Disney canon. Remember Force Choke he used on an Admiral during invasion of Hoth where an Admiral made a mistake that allowed Rebels to be on alert when the fleet arrived and Darth Vader forcehoked him in another ship. Which it means that Darth Vader can simply force choke Khan in distance and be done with it.
Also he can use his Force to deal with Khan too, as well, since he can use it to deflect Phasers and his boolean rifle and slice his head off with his shiny red lightsaber.
Also he can use his Force to deal with Khan too, as well, since he can use it to deflect Phasers and his boolean rifle and slice his head off with his shiny red lightsaber.
That guy wasn't a warrior and wasn't in the same room so how was that impressive or relevant ?
The Boolean gun took down ships so you can't compare it with blaster fire. Did you even see this film ?
I should know better than to respond to a quanchi thread, but I'm still going to say Khan has no answer to telekinesis
Why didn't Kenobi beat Fett ? How did Cad Bane get the better of Kenobi when two Jedi pursued him ? Han Solo got off a few blasts even against Vader despite Darth lying in wait. So it seemed that boasters from Han was quicker than Vader's tk.
Helezhelm
Morilantë
Irrelevant, as Khan has no answer against Telekinesis. Force Choke or usage of Force will kill Khan easily.
And Darth Vader used his TK to deflect shots from Han Solo's blasters, did you even watch second film of star wars series at all (Return of Empire)?
Puppet Master
Master of all Creation
You mean Kenobi the guy who prefers to hit people with his glowing stick rather then force chock them? That Kenobi? Also Darth Vader was obviously toying with Han remember those shots may have been fired but they were also intercepted by Vader.
Question for the OP is this disney continuity? If so then this is relevant.
Darth Vader destroying an At-At
Darth Vader spinning a guy's head like a toy
The freighters completed a slow flyover, then turned and head back toward the campsite. As they did, they accelerated and descended at a flat angle.
"I think perhaps they've seen what they want to see," the Emperor observed.
Noses down, the freighters began firing from blaster cannons mounted on the top and bottom of the ships, long red lines that exited the ship in superheated pusles. Trees one hundred meters from Vader and the Emperor exploded into splinters under the onslaught, and the lines cut a rapid path along the clearing toward them, putting a patchwork of smoking holes in the earth, closing in on Vader.
One with the Force, Vader held his ground and tensed for impact. Then he exploded into motion, his lightsaber humming as he spun it rapidly left and right, deflecting the powerful blaster shots off into the forest, shattering still more trees, destroying the tents, but sparring the communications array. The kinetic energy from the shots drove him backward, his boots putting furrows in the soft soil.
The Royal Guards, momentarily taken by surprise, recovered enough to plant blaster rifles against their shoulders. They fired at the freighters as the large ships sped over and past them, but the personal weapons did no harm to the shielded and armored ships.
"We should take cover in the trees, my lords!" said the captain.
"I think not," the Emperor said softly, watching the ships wheel about.
"They will come in lower this time," Vader said.
"I believe you are correct," the Emepror said. He removed his robe, took the elaborately crafted hilt of his lightsaber in hand, and ignited the blade.
Vader looked on in surprise. He seldom saw his Master so publically demonstrate his power. And he understood what it meant, of course. There must be no survivors who could bear witness. Only the Royal Guards could be allowed to live - only they could be trusted never to reveal what they'd seen, or even to talk about it among themselves.
The freighters completed their turn and accelerated back toward the clearing, their engines screaming in the otherwise quiet air. The Royal Guards shifted position to stand before the Emperor, partially shielding him with their bodies, and fired as rapidly as they could at the oncoming ships. They hit the ships again and again, but the tiny bolts did no damage.
Vader sank more deeply into the Force. Beside him, he felt his Master's power gather. He reveled in the moment, in the combined pool of their collective, unadulterated might.
The freighters opened fire, writing thick lines of plasma onto the air. The shots churned the ground, destroyed trees, heated the air of the clearing; one slammed into the chest of a Royal Guard and vaporized all of him save for his helmet.
Lost in the Force, Vader anticipated the shots that would have hit him, saw the appropriate angles of impact and deflection, and used the rapid spinning of his lightsaber to turn first one, then a second, and then a third shot not into the tree line but back at the ships, the heat and energy of the blaster shots driving him backward, warming the hilt of his weapon, a heat he could feel even through his glove. His Master did the same with his lightsaber, the graceful arcs of its red line weaving a protective shield around him and turning the second ship's shots back at it. Both ships tried to turn out of the way of the redirected shots, one turning hard left, the other hard right, but they only exposed their underbellies and engines to the deflected bolts.
Engines exploded into flame and spit smoke. His Master raised his hands, forming one into a claw emitting jagged bolts of Force lightning that connected him for a moment to the ship. Vader imagined the interior of the craft lit up with the bolts of his Master's power, the pilots screaming and writhing in pain as the dark side seared their flesh. The Emperor clenched the other hand, taking a mental hold on the ship with the Force. Vader, too, lifted a hand and reached out with the Force toward the other ship.
Vader enmeshed himself in the Force, in his seething, ever-present wrath, and used it to take hold of the freighter and drive the entire ship toward the ground. He grunted with effort, his respirator increasing his rate of breathing to account for the exertion.
The ship, its damaged engines unable to compensate enough against the downward push of Vader's power, went nose-down and streaked into the ground. Vader imagined the screams of the pilots as they watched the forest race toward them. The ship disappeared behind the tree line and exploded into a fireball that reached above the forest's canopy and caused the ground to vibrate. A cloud of black smoke rose into the darkening sky. A second boom sounded behind him, his Master having driven the second ship into the ground the same way./SPOILER]
"I think perhaps they've seen what they want to see," the Emperor observed.
Noses down, the freighters began firing from blaster cannons mounted on the top and bottom of the ships, long red lines that exited the ship in superheated pusles. Trees one hundred meters from Vader and the Emperor exploded into splinters under the onslaught, and the lines cut a rapid path along the clearing toward them, putting a patchwork of smoking holes in the earth, closing in on Vader.
One with the Force, Vader held his ground and tensed for impact. Then he exploded into motion, his lightsaber humming as he spun it rapidly left and right, deflecting the powerful blaster shots off into the forest, shattering still more trees, destroying the tents, but sparring the communications array. The kinetic energy from the shots drove him backward, his boots putting furrows in the soft soil.
The Royal Guards, momentarily taken by surprise, recovered enough to plant blaster rifles against their shoulders. They fired at the freighters as the large ships sped over and past them, but the personal weapons did no harm to the shielded and armored ships.
"We should take cover in the trees, my lords!" said the captain.
"I think not," the Emperor said softly, watching the ships wheel about.
"They will come in lower this time," Vader said.
"I believe you are correct," the Emepror said. He removed his robe, took the elaborately crafted hilt of his lightsaber in hand, and ignited the blade.
Vader looked on in surprise. He seldom saw his Master so publically demonstrate his power. And he understood what it meant, of course. There must be no survivors who could bear witness. Only the Royal Guards could be allowed to live - only they could be trusted never to reveal what they'd seen, or even to talk about it among themselves.
The freighters completed their turn and accelerated back toward the clearing, their engines screaming in the otherwise quiet air. The Royal Guards shifted position to stand before the Emperor, partially shielding him with their bodies, and fired as rapidly as they could at the oncoming ships. They hit the ships again and again, but the tiny bolts did no damage.
Vader sank more deeply into the Force. Beside him, he felt his Master's power gather. He reveled in the moment, in the combined pool of their collective, unadulterated might.
The freighters opened fire, writing thick lines of plasma onto the air. The shots churned the ground, destroyed trees, heated the air of the clearing; one slammed into the chest of a Royal Guard and vaporized all of him save for his helmet.
Lost in the Force, Vader anticipated the shots that would have hit him, saw the appropriate angles of impact and deflection, and used the rapid spinning of his lightsaber to turn first one, then a second, and then a third shot not into the tree line but back at the ships, the heat and energy of the blaster shots driving him backward, warming the hilt of his weapon, a heat he could feel even through his glove. His Master did the same with his lightsaber, the graceful arcs of its red line weaving a protective shield around him and turning the second ship's shots back at it. Both ships tried to turn out of the way of the redirected shots, one turning hard left, the other hard right, but they only exposed their underbellies and engines to the deflected bolts.
Engines exploded into flame and spit smoke. His Master raised his hands, forming one into a claw emitting jagged bolts of Force lightning that connected him for a moment to the ship. Vader imagined the interior of the craft lit up with the bolts of his Master's power, the pilots screaming and writhing in pain as the dark side seared their flesh. The Emperor clenched the other hand, taking a mental hold on the ship with the Force. Vader, too, lifted a hand and reached out with the Force toward the other ship.
Vader enmeshed himself in the Force, in his seething, ever-present wrath, and used it to take hold of the freighter and drive the entire ship toward the ground. He grunted with effort, his respirator increasing his rate of breathing to account for the exertion.
The ship, its damaged engines unable to compensate enough against the downward push of Vader's power, went nose-down and streaked into the ground. Vader imagined the screams of the pilots as they watched the forest race toward them. The ship disappeared behind the tree line and exploded into a fireball that reached above the forest's canopy and caused the ground to vibrate. A cloud of black smoke rose into the darkening sky. A second boom sounded behind him, his Master having driven the second ship into the ground the same way./SPOILER]
Vader extended a glove hand and loosed a blast of power that blew apart two of the lyleks rushing toward him, showering those behind with gore and chunks of carapace./SPOILER]
He fell deeply into the Force and loosed a wave of power from his outstretched hand that filled the circumference of the tunnel. The blast slammed into the charging horde, cracking exoskeletons, shattering stalagmites, and driving a score or more of the lyleks in the lead backward in a shower of broken bodies and broken stones./SPOILER]
Why do you hate Khan so much? What's next, Emperor Raoh vs Winnie the Pooh?
Vader breaks Khan's neck. Simple as that.
StylizedPenguin
Adviser (Vs)
Disney canon Vader can crush moving TIE fighters like tin cans, according to the new comics.
Does Disney Canon Vader frequently open fights with Force chokes and neck snaps?
1 hit from Khans heavy rifle and vaders cut in half
when was that?
He nearly killed Erza by having him decapitate himself on his own lightsaber before Kanan intervened, then after they both pushed an AT-ST on top of him which he blocked they said they can't kill him and ran away
StylizedPenguin
Adviser (Vs)
Here's the feat.
That's not opening with a force choke/neck snap.
Oh you meant specifically that. In which case he's used that on his own soldiers more than his opponents. He doesn't shy away from using Force powers mid fight in Disney Canon however.
Okay. That at least gives Khan a chance to use his Boolean gun at least sometimes.
Given it can easily bring down a Klingon patrol ship I'm inclined to think that one good shot will do Vader in. Since it's a beam it's going to be far harder to block with a lightsaber than a blaster.
So I'd say whoever shoots(both metaphorically and not) first wins.
Vader destroys him.
Darkstorm Zero
The Storm of Swords
Oh dear Quan. You get trashed at KMC, then come here and get trashed even worse. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...eadid=579463&highlight=title:(vader+vs.+khan)
Yeah he will downplay anything Vader does and keep this going for 700 pages.
Now, as I am wont to point out here... given that the Botany Bay launched before the alteration in the timeline, the Kahn in Into Darkness is the Kahn from Wrath of Kahn and Space Seed... just being portrayed by a different actor.
A chubby, hamfisted guy in a corset who may or may not have been wearing a wig yet beat him in H2H, with only 1/5th Kahn's strength. And you put him up against a Sith Lord?
Hahahahahahah.
Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh louder.
HAHAHAHAHA!
Now put Kahn up against a teenage Anikan and this could be very interesting.
A chubby, hamfisted guy in a corset who may or may not have been wearing a wig yet beat him in H2H, with only 1/5th Kahn's strength. And you put him up against a Sith Lord?
Hahahahahahah.
Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh louder.
HAHAHAHAHA!
Now put Kahn up against a teenage Anikan and this could be very interesting.
Han didn't have the force and he got more than a few blasts off before Vader can react. Based off what do you think Vader can block the Boolean gun ?
The blasts him him in the hand. It's called the empire strikes back. Lol.
Firstly, a book using all kinds of descriptive language when we've seen him in action numerous times. We don't see any of this in real time or an image. Let's discuss the At At. It took Vader the time it took Han and Leia to speak thrifty one words before the feat was accomplished. If he sits there and tries this the Boolean gun leaves massive holes in his body. Han and Leia also survived.
We see Anakin challenged by the likes of Cad Bane in real,time in the clone wars series. Hell, we see him in the suit crushed by an inexperienced Luke and handily when he got angry. Khan won't hesitate and his weaponry downs ships as opposed to light sabers leaving burn marks in its victims.
Did you mean to type Vader in ? Khan is greater than Vader.
Bringing up another board on here flaming is against the rules. Stick to the topic and try to respond to my argument not your personal feelings.Oh dear Quan. You get trashed at KMC, then come here and get trashed even worse. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=579463&highlight=titlevader+vs.+khan)
I only argue based off the facts.