What do you think happens to any Compact worlds that get conquered by the Principality? Like, if they where to conquer Rally (too far away, I know), would they kill all the Tribunes and othe ruling races? Imprison? Banish?
The Principality is rarely on the offensive so this isn't that much of an issue. However when they are it is usually going to be taking back former Principality holdings. Any of the ruling races within would probably get deported.What do you think happens to any Compact worlds that get conquered by the Principality? Like, if they where to conquer Rally (too far away, I know), would they kill all the Tribunes and othe ruling races? Imprison? Banish?
Makes sense, they definitely don’t want to bloodlust the Compact.
According to the Halo wiki, their heaviest orbital platforms fire 3000 ton slugs at 4% light speed, and can cleanly shoot through covenant 2 capital ships and wreck a third. (these would be like 47 gigatons of TNT equivalent). They can fire every 5 seconds. However, Red has been seen to shoot beam weapons with yields on the scale of 7 gigatons. Which means she would curb stomp everybody in the Haloverse very hard.The UEC would take a little bit of time to mobilize. They would also have a range advantage over the UNSC. I don't exactly know what the normal yields for UNSC weapons and durability are though.
Yes, modern missiles tend to move at .5c while modern Confederate missiles move at .6c. Modern Compact PD range is seven million kilometers.According to the Halo wiki, their heaviest orbital platforms fire 3000 ton slugs at 4% light speed, and can cleanly shoot through covenant 2 capital ships and wreck a third. (these would be like 47 gigatons of TNT equivalent). They can fire every 5 seconds. However, Red has been seen to shoot beam weapons with yields on the scale of 7 gigatons. Which means she would curb stomp everybody in the Haloverse very hard.
However, Confederacy era ships only had weapons measuring in the 20 megaton range (still below what the compact could do), but the biggest issue imo would be speed, since the shells from UNSC weapons would be much too slow for them to hit angelverse ships at range (since all angelverse ships travel and significant fractions of c), so even if the UNSC ships could dance around angelverse ships with their FTL, they would never really hope to heavily damage them, nor catch them. However, UNSC ships can use slipstream drives as a weapon (since shields and armor would protect against slipstream ruptures).

I think it's more about keeping up the narrative of being a civilized peer power. Remember there is a constant PR battle between the compact and principality for both each other's populations and also minor powers. Blatant mass genocide would be a surefire way to lose both popular support at home and potential allies among the lesser nations.Makes sense, they definitely don’t want to bloodlust the Compact.
Red's missiles aren't her Chariot-killers, they're for wrecking anything smaller then a Chariot. accordingly, they are broadly similer to modern cruise missiles in form and function, except they are the product of an endless genetic algorithm in terms of improvements run by an intelligent AI. they are bigger, faster, more maneuverable, have more range, better homing, hit harder, etc. etc. and they out-perform compact missiles in all categories by virtue of Red being able to iterate endlessly without worrying about politicians, bureaucrats, or the need to supply endless fleets and their unending hunger for more munitions. She carries a fair number of them (several dozen or a few hundred iirc) but can't re-supply them in combat. it still takes multiple hits to kill compact Capital ships, and a Chariot would take anything up to dozens or hundreds of missile impacts to truly kill, but they make for rather effective weapons when it comes to swatting anything smaller then a Chariot. Red, unlike Echo, doesn't have enough ammunition, or close-in energy weapons, to fight a large Compact fleet on her lonesome and win. That's why she was/is building her children.A question. Any source for what hellebores and missiles can do? For Red?
Because i'm sorta confused about how Red could be a Chariot-killer, even with the displacement engine.
Are there any posts talking about Hellbores and Red's missiles?Red's missiles aren't her Chariot-killers, they're for wrecking anything smaller then a Chariot. accordingly, they are broadly similer to modern cruise missiles in form and function, except they are the product of an endless genetic algorithm in terms of improvements run by an intelligent AI. they are bigger, faster, more maneuverable, have more range, better homing, hit harder, etc. etc. and they out-perform compact missiles in all categories by virtue of Red being able to iterate endlessly without worrying about politicians, bureaucrats, or the need to supply endless fleets and their unending hunger for more munitions. She carries a fair number of them (several dozen or a few hundred iirc) but can't re-supply them in combat. it still takes multiple hits to kill compact Capital ships, and a Chariot would take anything up to dozens or hundreds of missile impacts to truly kill, but they make for rather effective weapons when it comes to swatting anything smaller then a Chariot. Red, unlike Echo, doesn't have enough ammunition, or close-in energy weapons, to fight a large Compact fleet on her lonesome and win. That's why she was/is building her children.
Red's Hellbores (what the compact call Meteor Cannons iirc), and their 'breacher' ammunition, are her Chariot-killing weapons. the Hellbore itself is a mass driver that pups out projectiles of large but unspecified mass & size at velocities approaching 0.9c. at such insane velocity, a 140-gram (about 1/3 of a pound) baseball in atmosphere turns into a city-killing tac nuke. Red's projectiles are much, much larger and heavier. Red's 'breacher' ammunition takes one of those projectiles and addis in a warhead. not satisfied with a nuke, Red decided to pack in the only thing more deadly in space then Sir Isaac Newton: a device that ruptures space itself and gives multiple middle fingers to the rules of reality itself: a Breach Core designed to fail on impact, rending reality asunder and Fucking Up anything caught in the blast. Given how evasive Compact ships can be, even the massive chariots, Red also gave her 'breacher' shells thrusters to keep up their insane velocity, maneuvering thrusters to match, and a terminal homing AI to guide it into the target. Breacher shells can actually 'boomerang' to come back and hit an evading target: pulling a U-turn involving killing all 0.9c of their speed, and then re-accelerating back up to close to that velocity again. One hit from a breacher will kill anything smaller then a Chariot; if the target is supremely lucky, there might even be a drifting irradiated hulk left afterwards. Chariots have the shields, armor, and raw structural toughness to survive a breacher hit or two... which is why Red has (last I checked) Three Hellbores and 6-8 round magazines stuffed foll of breachers for each one.
Err, her breachers are highly experimental, finicky weapons, and she only carries 1 or 2 at a time because they're so unreliable. She uses them more to flush out stealth elements or blind enemy ECM than for hits to kill her opponents. Standard Meteor rounds are small-ship-sized things accelerated to 0.7 c or something ridiculous before the absurdly powerful onboard thrusters take over guidance and boomerang duties. The warhead is antimatter.Three Hellbores and 6-8 round magazines stuffed foll of breachers for each one.
Have you read The Last Angel? This is a sequel, not the original. It has far more information on the hellebores than Ascension does.Are there any posts talking about Hellbores and Red's missiles?
I also included her missile launchers, but the missile types are explained.Internal: 675 missile tubes per broadside, 54 prow tubes, 36 aft mine tubes
External: 720 external missile racks (single-use)
Missile types: (~60,000,000 km range)
High explosive (omni-directional and directed explosions)
Jammer/ECM
Shield-breaker* (one-use energy projector that destabilizes portion of shields)
Hydra* (carries multiple independently-targeting warheads)
Warp missiles*
He saw the melted, broken and ruined hull plates of the human chariot’s prow shudder open. He saw the impossible, writhing flux arcs of energy spasming along the vessel’s length as some unspeakable siege weapon charged, saw the renewed assault as Bringer of Light threw what weapons it could bring to bear in a final, desperate bid to kill the human chariot and he saw how futile it was. He heard it; Bringer of Light’s final transmission, a single word squealing through all the static and battle damage.
“Impossible.”
Reality screamed; there was no other word for it. It shrieked as it was torn open, lacerated and split like rotten fruit. Unlight writhed in a hellish aurora that consumed Bringer of Light. Screens meant nothing. Hull plates deformed as stresses they were never meant to experience ruined them. Asek could only imagine the cries of the Chariot’s crew as they were consumed by the balefire. Bringer of Light shattered, breaking like a toy snapped over a petulant child’s knee, vomiting atmosphere and pieces of itself from the two halves of its body.
Meteor cannon is the catchall name for all inordinately powerful railcannons.Err, her breachers are highly experimental, finicky weapons, and she only carries 1 or 2 at a time because they're so unreliable. She uses them more to flush out stealth elements or blind enemy ECM than for hits to kill her opponents. Standard Meteor rounds are small-ship-sized things accelerated to 0.7 c or something ridiculous before the absurdly powerful onboard thrusters take over guidance and boomerang duties. The warhead is antimatter.
Battleships are 4-5 kilometers.Compact battleships (1-2 km warships i think) usually survive a single nearby detonation from one of these. A second kills it and if, by some miracle, red lands a skin-skin hit nothing short of a Chariot is survivng that.
Honestly I dont even think the UNSC was all that evil. Certainly they're heavy handed in their dealings with Insurecctionists, but the Innies on the whole are only a step away from the Taliban with their terrorist attacks, and even surpass them at times ie. Detonating a literal nuclear warhead in a city. Also even during the Human-Covenant war certain Innie cells still rebelled against the UNSCIn all seriousness, I feel like the UEC was a pretty well advanced (socially speaking) and safe place to live but we haven't really seen a lot so who knows? Government wise, they seem significantly more competent than the UNSC, and almost certainly less evil. I think I'd rather live in the UEC, and would rather not replace its gov with the UNSC. Especially ONI.
definitely a better place to live then the UNSC's parent state- it was in the process of disintegrating ala rome (albiet with more explosions and violent terrorism) at the point the covenant fortunately (for the higher ups) made first contact and made it clear their leadership were xenocidal maniacs who made THEM look good/like the devil the populace knew-As a government, as a place to live, or in a fight?
UEC stomps obviously /s
Hmm. It'll be interesting to see exactly what this thing is; we know Hekate is newly modified and leaving the Molten Veneer with Nemesis, so either this is somehow another Chariot that Nemesis has acquired in her travels and just repainted or it's a freighter modified to have the same outer shape as Redemption of Sol and act as bait.ensconced in girders and swarmed by industrial drones laid the hulk of a Compact Chariot.
That it might, but certainly not for longWeight of Destiny would be the first of the Galhemna-born Chariots. It would clear the way for its fellows’ final construction.
I was counting down the days waiting for this chapter, I just wanna see some space slaughter dammit
Even if it's a trap, it's a trap they must trigger.Nasham was quiet for a moment. Invida. Bequeathed. Vinsea. “The same one I provided to you before,” he said. “She has to die. No matter what happens, no matter the cost. She has to die. Even if she’s not in Cemetery, we can hurt her. We can grind whatever temples she’s raised back into dust and end her sister before either can be used against us.”