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Actually something like this is not the first time to be referenced. The Ironweld Arsenal is said to have been founded by Dwarves who “dug” their way into the Mortal Realms. In the first first AOS Rule Book it speaks of survivors who fought their way through the Realms of Chaos and “parallel dimensions” to arrive in the Mortal Realms. We do have the like of Gutrot Spume and the Glotkin who survived the End Times thanks to the Nurgle.
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Battletome Preview: Hedonites of Slaanesh - Warhammer Community
THIS BRINGS ME SUCH SWEET JOY
Shephard
Still in Statis
Honestly it is. It's only referenced once by a prophet type character. At the start of the story, the Khul themselves don't even remember they're native to another Realm, or that they worshipped Khorne and that was a lot more recent.
wingren013
indie physicist
Oh they buffed the Invaders allegiance ability. That's nice. I had a tough time figuring out why anyone would tane that over the others before.
Oh, and Hysterical Frenzy is bonkers vs hordes.
Oh, and Hysterical Frenzy is bonkers vs hordes.
keroko
Artificer
I like their emphasis on heroes and big wound models. Right now, the lack of a toughness stat tends to mean that unless you can buff their save something fierce big monsters are point sponges which are extremely weak against ranged armies, but if suffering wounds nets you depravity points, that changes the game.
I need to hear more about this.
keroko
Artificer
THE MASTER MAKER
Rumours of Grungni’s return spread throughout the duardin factions, from Fyreslayer lodges to the Kharadron's aerial domains, as well as the Dispossessed and Ironweld Arsenal garrisons in the free cities of the Mortal Realms. It is said that the patriarch of the duardin pantheon has returned from his self-imposed exile and founded a new stronghold hidden beneath the mountains of Chamon. There are those who whisper that, in solitude, the Forge God is crafting something wondrous that will reunify his scattered children. Reports differ on what this could be, from a new duardin bloodline to a great machine, or even a way to bring back the missing goddess of the hearth. Whether such claims are true or merely the result of too much strong liquor and hidden hopes remains unknown.
~Fyreslayers battletome 2nd edition
Neat. I hope something comes of it. 
Unrelatedly, I have a random question that maybe Josh Reynolds can answer?
Hail Bretonnia! What role did these noble men & women play in the End Times, and what was their fate: Gilon Duke of Aquitaine, Sir Richmont, Iselda - Keeper of the Tower, The Holy Knight, Gravain the Fair, Aloys of Montjoie, Gullamue of Grenoullie, Elanor of Quenelles, and Bagrain the Abbot. Thanks | ask.fm/JoshMReynolds
Unrelatedly, I have a random question that maybe Josh Reynolds can answer?
Hail Bretonnia! What role did these noble men & women play in the End Times, and what was their fate: Gilon Duke of Aquitaine, Sir Richmont, Iselda - Keeper of the Tower, The Holy Knight, Gravain the Fair, Aloys of Montjoie, Gullamue of Grenoullie, Elanor of Quenelles, and Bagrain the Abbot. Thanks | ask.fm/JoshMReynolds
Josh Reynolds said:
I'm confused. Is this a goof? A retcon? To be fair, Bagrian's a pretty obscure character and the question Josh was asked spoke as if he was alive, so I wouldn't blame him for assuming that the question was right and then making up something that seemed appropriate. So maybe the question is the source of the mistake, if indeed a mistake was made at all?Warhammer Chronicles 2003 p. 122 said:
It's the latter. I stopped double-checking whether characters were still alive about halfway through that whole episode. People were asking me about characters I'd never heard of outside fan-made army books someone linked me, and then getting annoyed when I gave them the 'wrong ending' (i.e. he/she/it died before the End Times), or asking me 'gotcha' questions because...it's fun to annoy me?Neat. I hope something comes of it.
Unrelatedly, I have a random question that maybe Josh Reynolds can answer?
Hail Bretonnia! What role did these noble men & women play in the End Times, and what was their fate: Gilon Duke of Aquitaine, Sir Richmont, Iselda - Keeper of the Tower, The Holy Knight, Gravain the Fair, Aloys of Montjoie, Gullamue of Grenoullie, Elanor of Quenelles, and Bagrain the Abbot. Thanks | ask.fm/JoshMReynolds
I'm confused. Is this a goof? A retcon? To be fair, Bagrian's a pretty obscure character and the question Josh was asked spoke as if he was alive, so I wouldn't blame him for assuming that the question was right and then making up something that seemed appropriate. So maybe the question is the source of the mistake, if indeed a mistake was made at all?
Really, those laundry list sets of characters are why I was planning to stop with the whole attempt to non-canonically tidy up the End Times, even before I got yelled at by GW. By the end, I had fans on one side, complaining about the free fanfiction being non-canon, and GW on the other, mad that I was writing well, anything having to do with WHF.
Though, even now, I wish I could have written the fall of Bretonnia and Tilea as something other than as an extended Q&A session...
That sounds fair, and I hope I didn't come off as trying to make another gotcha. I haven't heard of half the characters in that question either, so if it were me eventually I'd just google some names and then make up cool-sounding stories based on what I found.
For what it's worth I did like that you made the attempt to make some comments about overlooked characters. I think players can stress far too much about canon, and I hope you won't mind if I consider myself at liberty to ignore, revise, or make up my own stories about any of those characters - but it was still a good way of engaging with fans and reminding them that authors care about the setting as well. The Warhammer setting was always collaborative, a conversation between fans, but sometimes we can forget that authors are fans as well.
So, thanks for taking the time to answer. I appreciate it.
For what it's worth I did like that you made the attempt to make some comments about overlooked characters. I think players can stress far too much about canon, and I hope you won't mind if I consider myself at liberty to ignore, revise, or make up my own stories about any of those characters - but it was still a good way of engaging with fans and reminding them that authors care about the setting as well. The Warhammer setting was always collaborative, a conversation between fans, but sometimes we can forget that authors are fans as well.
So, thanks for taking the time to answer. I appreciate it.
IRUn
Desperately Trying to Update Regularly
Ouch. Sounds rough.
Though it's surprising that there were people who were seriously asking about the fates of fan-made characters; you have enough to worry about with characters who are actually a part of the setting.
No problem. And I didn't think you were, so no worries. And people should very much feel free to ignore, revise or build on that stuff - I wrote it for that purpose. Heck, I wish I could go back and change half of it, if only because I've come up with some better ideas.That sounds fair, and I hope I didn't come off as trying to make another gotcha. I haven't heard of half the characters in that question either, so if it were me eventually I'd just google some names and then make up cool-sounding stories based on what I found.
For what it's worth I did like that you made the attempt to make some comments about overlooked characters. I think players can stress far too much about canon, and I hope you won't mind if I consider myself at liberty to ignore, revise, or make up my own stories about any of those characters - but it was still a good way of engaging with fans and reminding them that authors care about the setting as well. The Warhammer setting was always collaborative, a conversation between fans, but sometimes we can forget that authors are fans as well.
So, thanks for taking the time to answer. I appreciate it.
I'm not. For the majority of them, it was just a bit of fun. They wanted to see how I would have killed off their character(s), and for the most part, everyone enjoyed it. Which was what I was hoping for.
The End Times stung, for a lot of fans. I was trying, in my ham-handed fashion, to take some of that sting out. Even if only by giving their favourite character a good death.
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Indeed. It's all supposed to be a vehicle for creativity - for modelling and painting and gaming and for that matter writing. I am always pro-creativity.
Lord Kragan
Hail Hydra
So apparently a) Wargames Factory produces certain plastics for Games Workshop in China, which is interesting, but also
b) What are these?!
Dominion of Sigmar Sigmarite Dais
Dominion of Sigmar The Enduring Stormvault
Dominion of Sigmar Fallen Statues
Dominion of Sigmar Shattered Temple
new modular AoS terrain for Warcry first then AoS after, much like the new 40k Sector Imperialis releases for Kill Team first then 40k after?
Wargames Factory Ltd., UNIT 16 9/F INTERNATIONAL TRADE CTR NO.11 SHA TSUI RD TSUEN WAN HK | Supplier Report — Panjiva
PLASTIC MODEL P O 308857 REF. -M 99120299054 DOMINION OF SIGMAR SIGMARITE DAIS QTY 2619 PCS 1310 CTNS P O 308856 REF. -M 99120299056 DOMINION SIGMAR THE ENDURING STORMVAULT QTY 2232 PCS 1116 CTNS HS CODE NO. 95030090 ORIGIN CHINA
PLASTIC MODEL P O 308859 REF. -M 99120299057 DOMINION OF SIGMAR FALLEN STATUES QTY 3280 PCS 820 CTNS P O 308858 REF. -M 99120299053 DOMINION OF SIGMAR SHATTERED TEMPLE QTY 2458 PCS615 CTNS HS CODE NO. 95030090 ORIGIN CHINA
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I think we are going to see some very neat modular terrain.
b) What are these?!
Dominion of Sigmar Sigmarite Dais
Dominion of Sigmar The Enduring Stormvault
Dominion of Sigmar Fallen Statues
Dominion of Sigmar Shattered Temple
new modular AoS terrain for Warcry first then AoS after, much like the new 40k Sector Imperialis releases for Kill Team first then 40k after?
Wargames Factory Ltd., UNIT 16 9/F INTERNATIONAL TRADE CTR NO.11 SHA TSUI RD TSUEN WAN HK | Supplier Report — Panjiva
PLASTIC MODEL P O 308857 REF. -M 99120299054 DOMINION OF SIGMAR SIGMARITE DAIS QTY 2619 PCS 1310 CTNS P O 308856 REF. -M 99120299056 DOMINION SIGMAR THE ENDURING STORMVAULT QTY 2232 PCS 1116 CTNS HS CODE NO. 95030090 ORIGIN CHINA
PLASTIC MODEL P O 308859 REF. -M 99120299057 DOMINION OF SIGMAR FALLEN STATUES QTY 3280 PCS 820 CTNS P O 308858 REF. -M 99120299053 DOMINION OF SIGMAR SHATTERED TEMPLE QTY 2458 PCS615 CTNS HS CODE NO. 95030090 ORIGIN CHINA
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I think we are going to see some very neat modular terrain.
Wyzilla
Grand Master
It's just not warhammer without a duel upon some impossible peak that can't exist in real life with a giant monster that in no way could stand in a stable manner on said peak, while butchering you way through foes at the bottom to reach the top.
Really, ROR's a whole lot of fun. I've already gone from zero to hero in no-time (as chosen you start out as a bum with a t-shirt and axe and nothing else to your name. Now I'm getting decent gear, having damn good fights, and doing alright at PVP too. Completed one game where I managed to single out and kill 10 enemy players. Unfortunately I didn't get anything from the easter special besides a bunch of stinking dyes - there was random drops where you could get wyvern mounts if you found an intact egg.
keroko
Artificer
I will always consider the final stand of the Dawi to be the highlight of the End Times. The entire dwarfen people standing shoulder to shoulder against the endless tides, never flinching, never breaking, and even those whose deaths were less noble got one final chance to settle the grudges.
white_rabbit
Shadow Cabal Berserker
The "dominion" aspect and the potential similarity to the 40k terrain strategy might be interesting.
Dominion might be the new "sector" perhaps? Dominion of Chaos would be an obvious likely addition if they were going through this, or perhaps realm specific terrain.
Its a little disappointing that they are using Chinese manufacturers, with a long tradition of UK manufacturing, but I guess it takes time and consideration to roll out native infrastructure.
Everyone died in the End Times. It was ultimately just a matter of how.
The last stand of the Zhufbarak at Middenheim was a good point. I also quite liked both Belegar's and Thorgrim's final battles. The latter was especially good: Thorgrim thundering across the battlefield, as inevitable as he is vengeful, reading out grudge after grudge, and for each one, the head of Queek. And then he got it.
Though for me the part that springs to mind is the last charge out of the Averburg, where Karl Franz and Jerrod seem to have decided that there was nothing left to do but ride out and see if they can take Archaon screaming to hell with them.
It works for me, I think. This last battle, especially since it features Jerrod and Hammerson, who'd both become my favourite characters by the end, with nothing left to do but pray and hope and ensure that, when we finally die, we die fighting for our gods and for our homes.End Times: Archaon said:
It's why I found the End Times so much more brutal for the elves than for the dwarfs, the Empire, or even Bretonnia. If my faction's going to die, I want to remember their final moments well: Grombrindal with the last of the dwarfs, on a day for the settling of all grudges; the knights of Quenelles riding off towards the sunset, to fight for all that remains of Bretonnia; Valten and Brunner and Volker at Middenheim, with the Exalted of Sigmar speaking words of undeniable truth to Archaon, who was, after all, only ever a pawn. I can handle those factions dying as long as they die well, as long as their lose their lives but not their souls nor the principles for which they fought. Whereas Khaine is far more brutal because, well, it felt to me like the elven races lost their souls. Chaos can kill you, fine, but that's not what cuts deep at the end. It's when you abandon what you stood for that cuts to the quick.
Lord Kragan
Hail Hydra
Eh... Terrain's always been done by chinese manufacturers. Kits of units are done in the uk, though.
white_rabbit
Shadow Cabal Berserker
Its been a bit of a journey with citadel scenery though. From the cardboard stuff of eons ago, to that period where they didn't really seem to have a firm strategy in hand, so we had vacuum formed craters, random injection moulding bits, polystone , resin etc. Then the random buildings in plastic, before the current thematic range.
I feel like now they've moved onto injection moulded plastic, they should be able to bring it home. That said, I can't recall the specifics of their machines from all those years ago when they bought the then shiny new ones, so they might not have the grunt.
I'm also less inclined to be snotty if they are doing it to avoid production delays, but they should be investing some of their lucre in improving their local manufacturing capability. Of all the things done in the past, that one wasn't a mistake.
Also whilst I'm mithering, they seriously need to push some sort of recycling initiative before they end up in the sights of environmentalists for the plastic waste. There are vastly bigger culprits, but I wince every time I can't recycle a sprue.
I can only make so much home made terrain guys!
But anyway, AoS would benefit from some of the terrain love, although I really wouldn't mind if they tried the concept of releasing a battle damaged but complete building kit, in such a fashion that would let us build an intact building without buying multiple kits.
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Slaanesh: The New Warscrolls! - Warhammer Community
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Slaanesh: The New Warscrolls! - Warhammer Community
Slaanesh: The New Warscrolls!
Still hungry for more Slaanesh previews after yesterday’s in-depth look at the new battletome? Even trapped in the Hidden Gloaming,* we’ve heard your cries, and we’ve got some tantalising new rules to share with you…
Keeper of Secrets
With an awesome new model, it was only fitting the Keeper of Secrets should get some awesome new rules to match!
The new Keeper of Secrets is an unspeakably deadly combatant that’s more than a match for any monster in the game, capable of slicing them apart from a hail of deadly attacks and sinister abilities. Dark Temptations, for instance, can be used to lure your enemy into making a deadly bargain that could well slay their favourite Hero.
The Keeper of Secrets has a range of optional gear that allows you to tailor your strategy to your preferences. The living whip, for instance, is great for hunting Monsters – Ghoul Kings on Terrorgheists beware!
Shalaxi Helbane
Shalaxi Helbane is very similar to the Keeper of Secrets, with some deadly additional kit that makes them great against enemy Heroes. Irresistible Challenge, for instance, forces enemy Heroes to choose between charging Shalaxi or suffering mortal wounds.
Syll’Esske, the Vengeful Allegiance
Syll’Esske is an excellent “toolbox” unit, offering a number of benefits to a Slaanesh army and slotting neatly into a variety of army builds.
While pretty excellent in melee, Syll’Esske is most useful for its incredible unique spell, Subvert, which can shut down enemy command abilities, potentially devastating their strategy.
Meanwhile, the Regal Authority command ability can be used to bolster your offensive abilities or shield units from Battleshock, making it a great combination with hordes of Daemonettes.
The Contorted Epitome
The Contorted Epitome is the magical lynchpin of the Slaanesh army. With one on your side, you’ll be able to dominate the hero phase and shut down enemy sorcerers and endless spells with ease, thanks to its ability to re-roll failed casting, unbinding and dispelling rolls.
Attempting to destroy the Contorted Epitome with mortal wounds is all but impossible thanks to its excellent Swallow Energy ability…
…while anyone that tries to destroy it in close combat risks being hit by the Horrible Fascination ability.
You’ll be able to pre-order all of these new models for yourself this weekend, while more rules for them can be found in Battletome: Hedonites of Slaanesh. In the meantime, let us know how you’ll be using them in your army on the Warhammer Age of Sigmar Facebook page!
* Or, as mortals call it, the Warhammer Community office.
I already do that sometimes when one of my heroes are slain. Then I summon 20 Daemonettes.
Good times
Urk. Slaaneshi, even makes cutting into them feels wrong.
At leaves elves were important to the story. The dawi were literally "And then they they all died without actually mattering, having had no impact on the end times at all"
New slaanesh is looking brutally powerful. Maybe too powerful with how easy and strong depravity points are. Slaanesh can right now easily summon a keeper in the second turn, and summon a new keep every turn hence. And it's going to be even easier now and much MUCH harder to hurt them before you're wiped out